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> I've been using both for 4-5 years and I much prefer other libraries these days like Inferno, Mithril, Preact, or Svelte. As a lover of React, and not having

> I've been using both for 4-5 years and I much prefer other libraries these days like Inferno, Mithril, Preact, or Svelte. As a lover of React, and not having used the others you mentioned here...what is it about them you like over React?

pier25 7y ago
All of those are very different among them so it's difficult to say but generally speaking because all are faster and more light weight. Mithril gives you components + vdom + router + http client in 10kB gzipped. Performance is faster than React + Redux. I think it's the most zen and elegant of all options since your state is basically vanilla JS but that's very subjective. Inferno and Preact are very React-y. Inferno is much much faster than React. Preact is much much smaller than React. With both you can add a compat layer to use React libraries. Svelte is another beast altogether. Instead of a vdom it compiles your code to super efficient impertive DOM manipulation code which produces extremely small and fast apps. I don't love the ergonomics but the results are super impressive. See these benchmarks for my claims about size and speed: https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/current.html https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/current.ht...
- ng12 7y ago
  Why do you care about optimizing perf so much? React and even Angular are fast enough that you should never need to worry about any sort of perf hacking, and I would argue that if perf is the number-one concern for your use case you shouldn't be using a framework at all. The primary thing I care about when comparing frameworks is developer productivity. Bundle size is a moderate concern, saving 50-100ms to re-render a giant table doesn't even make the list.
  - dentemple 7y ago
    For general use-cases, I doubt the performance benefit matters as much as engineers claim that it does. But there are more specific use-cases where it would indeed matter. Hand-held devices, high calculation loads, etc. Even Dan Abramov's popular talk on React Suspense shows that even the newest versions of React begin the chugg under the influence of an extreme performance situation.

pier25 7y ago

All of those are very different among them so it's difficult to say but generally speaking because all are faster and more light weight. Mithril gives you components + vdom + router + http client in 10kB gzipped. Performance is faster than React + Redux. I think it's the most zen and elegant of all options since your state is basically vanilla JS but that's very subjective. Inferno and Preact are very React-y. Inferno is much much faster than React. Preact is much much smaller than React. With both you can add a compat layer to use React libraries. Svelte is another beast altogether. Instead of a vdom it compiles your code to super efficient impertive DOM manipulation code which produces extremely small and fast apps. I don't love the ergonomics but the results are super impressive. See these benchmarks for my claims about size and speed: https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/current.html https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/current.ht...

ng12 7y ago
Why do you care about optimizing perf so much? React and even Angular are fast enough that you should never need to worry about any sort of perf hacking, and I would argue that if perf is the number-one concern for your use case you shouldn't be using a framework at all. The primary thing I care about when comparing frameworks is developer productivity. Bundle size is a moderate concern, saving 50-100ms to re-render a giant table doesn't even make the list.
- dentemple 7y ago
  For general use-cases, I doubt the performance benefit matters as much as engineers claim that it does. But there are more specific use-cases where it would indeed matter. Hand-held devices, high calculation loads, etc. Even Dan Abramov's popular talk on React Suspense shows that even the newest versions of React begin the chugg under the influence of an extreme performance situation.