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Where have you heard/read about this? I've seen cases where twitch streamers have super obvious bots watching, literally thousands of them, and Twitch did noth
by legohead 7y ago
Where have you heard/read about this? I've seen cases where twitch streamers have super obvious bots watching, literally thousands of them, and Twitch did nothing.
- tmpz22 7y agoIt used to be a very large problem for the 2007scape streamers, I imagine it was solved with a mix of legally prosecuting serious offenders via de-anonymizing the bot networks, as well as a tighter feedback loop of reporting and banning them - effectively making it more of a hassle to setup than its worth, which is saying a lot because the types of people doing those activities have A LOT of free time.
- komali2 7y agoHow could they legally prosecute them? What laws were broken?
- kick 7y agoEULAs are legally-binding in the United States, and the Federal government is very happy to murder people under CFAA violations.
- Izkata 7y ago> EULAs are legally-binding in the United States Not generally. Specific ones may be, but so far it's always been on a case-by-case basis.
- bensw 7y agoSeeing as this is something personal to me, while Twitch originally used the CFAA, when seeking judgement they dismissed that claim (page 2 footnote 2): https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.299961/gov.uscourts.cand.299961.78.0.pdf https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.299961...
- kick 7y agoThanks for linking that.
- tmpz22 7y agoIANAL, but at least on the /2007scape streams the viewbots were used to pump up numbers on fake streams linking to phishing sites (which presumably is an illegal activity in most countries). For other content, it can be seen as a loss of income for the streamer if they are demonetized due to viewbots, and for those where it isn't - it is effectively ad fraud since Twitch revenue is based on those engagement numbers
- gjs278 7y agoyou have no clue how the internet works
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- yjftsjthsd-h 7y agoIt doesn't seem too surprising that avoiding false positives means you are more vulnerable to false negatives.
- bluGill 7y agoA few false negatives is generally manageable and in the noise. If I have one bot follower who cares - if it is significant to me that means I'm small (5 follows 4 real - nobody cares about me), or I'm so big that the one doesn't matter (100,000 vs 99,999 real - I'd probably cross 100,000 in a few days anyway)