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> But such people absolutely don’t develop their careers. Given the choice what is better: developing your career or your skills/competencies? Many developers

> But such people absolutely don’t develop their careers. Given the choice what is better: developing your career or your skills/competencies? Many developers learn some tool or giant framework instead of actually learning to write code or how to do their jobs because they are in a hurry to develop their careers. I would rather work with competent people who are less in a hurry to artificially justify their existence. As an example in the real world nobody advertises their experience with a screwdriver, but the opposite is true in software. People will frequently advertise their limited value as a React or Angular developer. It’s clear they know how to use a tool, but can’t write an application to save their lives (or careers). Why should I not find that frustrating, particularly when these giant framework applications suck and these developers are immediately hostile to original code? In that kind of work culture I could be 10x more productive, but if it’s met with hostility and not rewarded what’s my motivation to do anything more than be barely awake?

triceratops 7y ago
> developing your career or your skills/competencies? GP was saying that you only develop your career by developing skills. React is a skill, so is Angular, so is the wide world of front-end web programming.
- austincheney 7y ago
  I disagree those are tools, like an grossly enormous hammer. If you had learned data structures, the DOM, storage, and all the other things that comprise the platform your opinions of the available tools would change. Nobody else in the world immediately jumps to nuclear weapons as their first stage tool. Only in software do we immediately jump to the nuclear option for all tasks, and there is something wrong with that.
  - triceratops 7y ago
    > data structures, the DOM, storage, and all the other things that comprise the platform your opinions of the available tools would change I do know all of those things. I still think React, Angular and other frontend frameworks have a time and place.

triceratops 7y ago

> developing your career or your skills/competencies? GP was saying that you only develop your career by developing skills. React is a skill, so is Angular, so is the wide world of front-end web programming.

austincheney 7y ago
I disagree those are tools, like an grossly enormous hammer. If you had learned data structures, the DOM, storage, and all the other things that comprise the platform your opinions of the available tools would change. Nobody else in the world immediately jumps to nuclear weapons as their first stage tool. Only in software do we immediately jump to the nuclear option for all tasks, and there is something wrong with that.
- triceratops 7y ago
  > data structures, the DOM, storage, and all the other things that comprise the platform your opinions of the available tools would change I do know all of those things. I still think React, Angular and other frontend frameworks have a time and place.