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I wanted to buy a Japanese Pixel 4 because of the local train access, but it was so ridiculously expensive. In the USA there are constantly discounts allowing y

I wanted to buy a Japanese Pixel 4 because of the local train access, but it was so ridiculously expensive. In the USA there are constantly discounts allowing you to buy the pixels for a couple hundred dollars below retail price. In Japan and other places of the world the whole thing is over a hundred bucks more expensive than retail. Over a 1000 dollars for a phone? I'd rather buy an iPhone then. I ended up getting a second hand iPhone 8 for $250 as second device instead. Most of it better than most previous year android flagships and dirt cheap with 97% battery capacity. I'm trying really hard to keep my "freedom" on android devices, but what the actual f. The only reasonably priced flagship CPU devices are from Xiaomi. Most companies either don't have the ability to unlock the bootloader anymore or brick some random thing of the device or software if you do. Yeah sure the pixel does that and has good source code support, but over 1000 USD for 128 GB? Apple devices have better value for money and you won't have to play lottery about whether the next two android updates will actually work properly.

csunbird 7y ago
I only buy Apple products, because of their durability. One of my friends are still using an iphone 6s, he did not even needed to change the battery
- Intermernet 7y ago
  Hey, I have a completely functional, regularly used Samsung Galaxy S5 (IMO the last good phone Samsung made, and I currently run an S9 as my daily phone, and my partner has an S10). Anecdata is weird when it comes to mobile devices. It seems that some phones are really not created equal to others in the same production run. I presume it's sort of like processor binning, but not actually tested in the factory. Every now and then a customer gets a phone that performs perfectly, and the battery lasts for over a decade (obviously with recharging!) ;-)
  - csunbird 7y ago
    I agree on personal experience varies wildly. I also bought an iphone 7 three years ago and it was working fine with 85% battery life, before I broke the screen and replaced it. Before phone, I was using Samsung phones exclusively, S4, Note 4 etc, they all died within two years.
mercer 7y ago
What's the price of a Pixel 3A in your part of the world? I got one after having iPhones since the Nexus 3 (I think), and I'm quite happy with it. It cost me 300 euro, and it feels like it can handle everything I need. I specifically went for the Pixel 3A because leaving the Apple ecosystem I wanted the alternative that is most likely to be stable, updated, and not filled with crapware. so far I have no complaints, and I even prefer much of this new phone over my previous iPhones (iPhone 7, iPhone 5S before that).

csunbird 7y ago

I only buy Apple products, because of their durability. One of my friends are still using an iphone 6s, he did not even needed to change the battery

Intermernet 7y ago
Hey, I have a completely functional, regularly used Samsung Galaxy S5 (IMO the last good phone Samsung made, and I currently run an S9 as my daily phone, and my partner has an S10). Anecdata is weird when it comes to mobile devices. It seems that some phones are really not created equal to others in the same production run. I presume it's sort of like processor binning, but not actually tested in the factory. Every now and then a customer gets a phone that performs perfectly, and the battery lasts for over a decade (obviously with recharging!) ;-)
- csunbird 7y ago
  I agree on personal experience varies wildly. I also bought an iphone 7 three years ago and it was working fine with 85% battery life, before I broke the screen and replaced it. Before phone, I was using Samsung phones exclusively, S4, Note 4 etc, they all died within two years.

mercer 7y ago

What's the price of a Pixel 3A in your part of the world? I got one after having iPhones since the Nexus 3 (I think), and I'm quite happy with it. It cost me 300 euro, and it feels like it can handle everything I need. I specifically went for the Pixel 3A because leaving the Apple ecosystem I wanted the alternative that is most likely to be stable, updated, and not filled with crapware. so far I have no complaints, and I even prefer much of this new phone over my previous iPhones (iPhone 7, iPhone 5S before that).