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They look great. If you make something where people can pick say paintings/styles they like, and then you generate custom for them until they choose one (and pr

They look great. If you make something where people can pick say paintings/styles they like, and then you generate custom for them until they choose one (and presumably then un-watermark or high res it), you may have a business here.

tacheiordache 7y ago
Ok. What’s the point of that, original poster or canvas print? In a way training AI on existing art and generating some more amounts to vulgarizing abstract art or art in general and doesn’t add much to it, it is a gimmick. It certainly looks attractive but does it have any real value?
- davidajackson 7y ago
  Have you ever seen things like fractals on people's walls? They are curiosities. I guess you could call them gimmicks, but I would just call them interesting--gimmicks has kind of derogatory tone. Value is just what people will pay for it. Which is apparently, in some cases, more than 430k: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/arts/design/ai-art-sold-christies.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/arts/design/ai-art-sold-c... The notion of vulgarizing art is what people said about jazz when it pulled people away from the "fine art" of classical (the "swamp of jazz"). How wrong they were. I don't think people will see beautiful art, albeit generated by an AI, as "vulgar" in the future.
  - tartoran 7y ago
    No no, fractals are not gimmicks. Theres a beauty in mathematical relationship that can be greatly appreciated and taken in. On the other hand this is stats of existing work remixed. Looks pretty but hasn’t got a lot of value. Yes, could be printed on canvas if that helps. Could eventually finds its way in IKEA because it does look pretty and does have some ornamental value. Question is, would anyone hold onto any particular piece for 100 years or more?
  - tacheiordache 7y ago
    Im not saying the same thing, Jazz was still done by people within a context of its times. AI currently cannot do that. Maybe AGI will..
- mkarliner 7y ago
  Or taking lots of photos and selecting the one with the decisive moment in it? People create 'art' like that all the time. It's art because I say it's art, it may not be someones else's idea of art. The artist (even an AI) and the the viewer form a system and art is the result. Would one of these be art in the middle of the forest? Or a Leonardo?

tacheiordache 7y ago

Ok. What’s the point of that, original poster or canvas print? In a way training AI on existing art and generating some more amounts to vulgarizing abstract art or art in general and doesn’t add much to it, it is a gimmick. It certainly looks attractive but does it have any real value?

davidajackson 7y ago
Have you ever seen things like fractals on people's walls? They are curiosities. I guess you could call them gimmicks, but I would just call them interesting--gimmicks has kind of derogatory tone. Value is just what people will pay for it. Which is apparently, in some cases, more than 430k: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/arts/design/ai-art-sold-christies.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/arts/design/ai-art-sold-c... The notion of vulgarizing art is what people said about jazz when it pulled people away from the "fine art" of classical (the "swamp of jazz"). How wrong they were. I don't think people will see beautiful art, albeit generated by an AI, as "vulgar" in the future.
- tartoran 7y ago
  No no, fractals are not gimmicks. Theres a beauty in mathematical relationship that can be greatly appreciated and taken in. On the other hand this is stats of existing work remixed. Looks pretty but hasn’t got a lot of value. Yes, could be printed on canvas if that helps. Could eventually finds its way in IKEA because it does look pretty and does have some ornamental value. Question is, would anyone hold onto any particular piece for 100 years or more?
- tacheiordache 7y ago
  Im not saying the same thing, Jazz was still done by people within a context of its times. AI currently cannot do that. Maybe AGI will..
mkarliner 7y ago
Or taking lots of photos and selecting the one with the decisive moment in it? People create 'art' like that all the time. It's art because I say it's art, it may not be someones else's idea of art. The artist (even an AI) and the the viewer form a system and art is the result. Would one of these be art in the middle of the forest? Or a Leonardo?