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Classic example of following definitions or illustrious assumptions too closely... another one is an obvious one, and historically has been challenged a few tim

Classic example of following definitions or illustrious assumptions too closely... another one is an obvious one, and historically has been challenged a few times: the beginning of the prime sequence 'should be' 1, 3, 5.. very clean, very coherent, but it got stuck in definitions limbo and now we got no 1 and the alien 2, that has to be excepted in most algorithms..eh...

lanna 7y ago
Why do you think 2 is alien? How could the fundamental theorem of arithmetic be stated without 2?
- ianai 7y ago
  2 is definitely no “alien”. More like a legendary prime god amongst countably infinite odd primes. 0 and 1 are two sides of an extreme that either generates a meaningful number system through their separation and extremis from one another or no system at all if 1=0 is assumed true. They’re like a Jekyl and Hyde god.
  - lanna 7y ago
    "Odd" is just a word that means "not divisible by two". There is truly nothing special about a prime not being divisible by two. I could equally say "3 is a legendary prime god amongst countably infinite non-divisible-by-three primes", "5 is a legendary prime god amongst countably infinite non-divisible-by-five primes"... The only difference is that we do not have special words that mean non-divisible-by-three, non-divisible-by-five, etc. In this regard, I don't see 2 as a special prime. Saying "2 is the only even prime" is the same as saying "2 is the only prime divisible by two", which, by definition, can be said about any other prime.
    - ianai 7y ago
      Right. In the language of the article, if p is a whole number whose digits end in the number 2 then all numbers after it ending in the digits 0 or 2 are not prime. It’s a seemingly weak statement but it says a much stronger thing about the primes than the hypothesis of the article. Anyway, just trying to react in tone to calling any number an “alien”. I think of numbers as being outside the realm of words like alien - I don’t even know what that would mean for a number. Hence my comment is hyperbole hinting at my love of mathematics. To me, it really is a beautiful area of study. Wish I could do it more.
- egdod 7y ago
  2 isn’t an alien, exactly... but it’s a little bit of an oddball amongst the primes. There are indeed a lot of theorems that start with “let p be an odd prime.”

lanna 7y ago

Why do you think 2 is alien? How could the fundamental theorem of arithmetic be stated without 2?

ianai 7y ago
2 is definitely no “alien”. More like a legendary prime god amongst countably infinite odd primes. 0 and 1 are two sides of an extreme that either generates a meaningful number system through their separation and extremis from one another or no system at all if 1=0 is assumed true. They’re like a Jekyl and Hyde god.
- lanna 7y ago
  "Odd" is just a word that means "not divisible by two". There is truly nothing special about a prime not being divisible by two. I could equally say "3 is a legendary prime god amongst countably infinite non-divisible-by-three primes", "5 is a legendary prime god amongst countably infinite non-divisible-by-five primes"... The only difference is that we do not have special words that mean non-divisible-by-three, non-divisible-by-five, etc. In this regard, I don't see 2 as a special prime. Saying "2 is the only even prime" is the same as saying "2 is the only prime divisible by two", which, by definition, can be said about any other prime.
  - ianai 7y ago
    Right. In the language of the article, if p is a whole number whose digits end in the number 2 then all numbers after it ending in the digits 0 or 2 are not prime. It’s a seemingly weak statement but it says a much stronger thing about the primes than the hypothesis of the article. Anyway, just trying to react in tone to calling any number an “alien”. I think of numbers as being outside the realm of words like alien - I don’t even know what that would mean for a number. Hence my comment is hyperbole hinting at my love of mathematics. To me, it really is a beautiful area of study. Wish I could do it more.
egdod 7y ago
2 isn’t an alien, exactly... but it’s a little bit of an oddball amongst the primes. There are indeed a lot of theorems that start with “let p be an odd prime.”