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What would your reaction if information about you or your loved ones was posted and people were encouraged to do nasty things to you or them?

cthor 7y ago
Ignore it. If it were a credible threat of physical harm (it rarely is), then I'd make a police report and be more vigilant with my self-defence preparation and tell my loved ones to be accordingly. Attempting to censor the information would be pointless at best, and could easily make it worse.
worble 7y ago
Well I mean, like I say, I'm pretty careful not to let out personal information online (Although I'm sure someone could probably track me down if they really tried). Without being in that situation it's pretty hard to say. People say lots of things on the internet but it very rarely translates into reality, not without some kind of actual reason to do so. It's easy to say while not being in that sitatuation, but unless I believed that there was an actual reason to target me, someone wouldn't bother putting their own life at risk just to follow what some other random person on the internet said. Luckily I live in a pretty safe place, so I'd probably inform the police and let them take it from there.
whiddershins 7y ago
Expressing opinions vs making specific threats is a very clear thick line for me, and yet somehow whenever I read about takedowns and such it seems many people have trouble making the distinction. “I hate x and wish they had never been born” Is not “I am coming to your house tomorrow with a weapon” Yet people treat them similarly. From there it just becomes “anything that scares me is a threat.” Then, it becomes obvious that people are in general scared of cultures and attitudes very different from their own. And so there’s no tolerant chaos anymore. It’s a Motte and Bailey argument. Very few people support doxxing and/or incitements to violence. But it is amazing how much censorship happens in the pursuit of curbing such threats.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  I would like to echo your statement. I've always found it bizarre how people conflate insults with threats. In the vast majority of cases we can draw a very distinct line between the two. On top of that, it's not like this has any less ambiguity in meatspace.
- CoolGuySteve 7y ago
  In some psychology class long ago, I learned that one of the most self destructive things someone can do is perceive emotions as information. As in "That made me mad so what they did was clearly wrong". A lot of therapy is geared to shifting people away from that cognitive error. But that concept is thrown out the window when it comes to Twitter/Facebook/etc. I can't count how many times I've read "I'm literally shaking now" used as an indictment against someone else's perceived transgression. I think out of all the twitter cliches, that one makes me roll my eyes the most.
  - dboreham 7y ago
    Unfortunately this is kind of how the human brain works. It presumably evolved from a simpler design that only had "emotions", adding a higher level processing function that began as something very simple, evolving over a long time into the complex neocortex we have now. The primitive emotional brain is still present, with an imperfect "interface" to the newer brain.

cthor 7y ago

Ignore it. If it were a credible threat of physical harm (it rarely is), then I'd make a police report and be more vigilant with my self-defence preparation and tell my loved ones to be accordingly. Attempting to censor the information would be pointless at best, and could easily make it worse.

worble 7y ago

Well I mean, like I say, I'm pretty careful not to let out personal information online (Although I'm sure someone could probably track me down if they really tried). Without being in that situation it's pretty hard to say. People say lots of things on the internet but it very rarely translates into reality, not without some kind of actual reason to do so. It's easy to say while not being in that sitatuation, but unless I believed that there was an actual reason to target me, someone wouldn't bother putting their own life at risk just to follow what some other random person on the internet said. Luckily I live in a pretty safe place, so I'd probably inform the police and let them take it from there.

whiddershins 7y ago

Expressing opinions vs making specific threats is a very clear thick line for me, and yet somehow whenever I read about takedowns and such it seems many people have trouble making the distinction. “I hate x and wish they had never been born” Is not “I am coming to your house tomorrow with a weapon” Yet people treat them similarly. From there it just becomes “anything that scares me is a threat.” Then, it becomes obvious that people are in general scared of cultures and attitudes very different from their own. And so there’s no tolerant chaos anymore. It’s a Motte and Bailey argument. Very few people support doxxing and/or incitements to violence. But it is amazing how much censorship happens in the pursuit of curbing such threats.

Mirioron 7y ago
I would like to echo your statement. I've always found it bizarre how people conflate insults with threats. In the vast majority of cases we can draw a very distinct line between the two. On top of that, it's not like this has any less ambiguity in meatspace.
CoolGuySteve 7y ago
In some psychology class long ago, I learned that one of the most self destructive things someone can do is perceive emotions as information. As in "That made me mad so what they did was clearly wrong". A lot of therapy is geared to shifting people away from that cognitive error. But that concept is thrown out the window when it comes to Twitter/Facebook/etc. I can't count how many times I've read "I'm literally shaking now" used as an indictment against someone else's perceived transgression. I think out of all the twitter cliches, that one makes me roll my eyes the most.
- dboreham 7y ago
  Unfortunately this is kind of how the human brain works. It presumably evolved from a simpler design that only had "emotions", adding a higher level processing function that began as something very simple, evolving over a long time into the complex neocortex we have now. The primitive emotional brain is still present, with an imperfect "interface" to the newer brain.