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>Do you take an independent choice based on your morals and the information you’ve seen, or do you take the road to the biggest pile of cash? You mean, do you

>Do you take an independent choice based on your morals and the information you’ve seen, or do you take the road to the biggest pile of cash? You mean, do you force your moral viewpoints on the rest of the world? I would have figured that the last 500 years of colonization showed the issue with viewing one's own morals as superior to the rest of the world.

Carpetsmoker 7y ago
Eh, that seems rather harsh. The question is whether or not Google should show these borders as disputed, and I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that, in fact, these borders are a matter of dispute. Showing them as disputed is considerably more neutral than just taking one side (whether that's also realistic/feasible politically is another matter, and also not agreeing with the parent commenter btw).
- wanderer2323 7y ago
  Then the viewpoints you are forcing becomes whether the border is 'disputed' which is not much better and it makes your map a mess.
  - retsibsi 7y ago
    When the dispute is only formal, yes, it's a subjective question whether both parties are important enough for us to take the dispute seriously. But when a border is disputed in the 'troops and border skirmishes' sense? Ignoring that is verging on denying physical reality.
  - Carpetsmoker 7y ago
    Well, yeah; maps are a mess sometimes; that's just the way it is. The core criticism in this article is that Google presents maps as simple without context while in fact they are not.
  - anigbrowl 7y ago
    Who in the offended country is being forced to use an external map they find annoying? Those governments can make their own maps and share them with your population, like any other product or service that conflicts with regulations in some jurisdictions. What they're looking for, and some corporations are willing to provide, is the appearance of endorsement by external authorities for their political stance. Anyone in the country who disputes the border layout can be 'refuted' with 'just check Google, that proves the border runs thus and so.'
anigbrowl 7y ago
False binary. You can just put things out there as you see them and then other people can take it or leave it as they see fit.

Carpetsmoker 7y ago

Eh, that seems rather harsh. The question is whether or not Google should show these borders as disputed, and I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that, in fact, these borders are a matter of dispute. Showing them as disputed is considerably more neutral than just taking one side (whether that's also realistic/feasible politically is another matter, and also not agreeing with the parent commenter btw).

wanderer2323 7y ago
Then the viewpoints you are forcing becomes whether the border is 'disputed' which is not much better and it makes your map a mess.
- retsibsi 7y ago
  When the dispute is only formal, yes, it's a subjective question whether both parties are important enough for us to take the dispute seriously. But when a border is disputed in the 'troops and border skirmishes' sense? Ignoring that is verging on denying physical reality.
- Carpetsmoker 7y ago
  Well, yeah; maps are a mess sometimes; that's just the way it is. The core criticism in this article is that Google presents maps as simple without context while in fact they are not.
- anigbrowl 7y ago
  Who in the offended country is being forced to use an external map they find annoying? Those governments can make their own maps and share them with your population, like any other product or service that conflicts with regulations in some jurisdictions. What they're looking for, and some corporations are willing to provide, is the appearance of endorsement by external authorities for their political stance. Anyone in the country who disputes the border layout can be 'refuted' with 'just check Google, that proves the border runs thus and so.'

anigbrowl 7y ago

False binary. You can just put things out there as you see them and then other people can take it or leave it as they see fit.