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>You're coming off as a disgruntled employer. Sweden is trying to make it better for employees. Bullshit. It´s a way to purchase votes and generate tax $$ plai
by wesammikhail 7y ago
>You're coming off as a disgruntled employer. Sweden is trying to make it better for employees.
Bullshit. It´s a way to purchase votes and generate tax $$ plain and simple. Workers lives are not bettered by crippling startups. That´s the EXACT opposite of what is true. You want more business rather than less so the worker have more choices to pick from and there is more competition for the labor of said worker which would enable him to get an even better life and living standard.
> I'm sorry but I'm just a bit shocked because I didn't think Swedes had lost their socialist spirit so much.
The fact that you´re shocked tells me all I need to know about how well this PR game has been played. Sweden isn´t "socialist". How many times do we need to repeat that? Just because a company has a state run safety net that does not mean that it is a socialist country. By that definition, every country is a socialist country. Your definition of socialism is pretty fucked. Read about the 90s and the restructuring of the Swedish economy post the Housing crisis for Christ sake. It´s like facts seem to magically get altered just because Bernie said so.
> Clearly you're a product of the Bildt era.
I wonder how many calories you burn a day by jumping into conclusions... and no I am not. Not even close. I am merely an observer of two contradicting messages that are being put on display: 1) Sweden is one of the best places for startups, and 2) startups are burdened unlike any other country I have been to or read about. I cant personally square that circle and pointing that out does not make me a "product of Bildt" era, as if that actually means anything...
> That freedom of choice he advocated in health care for example has already backfired multiple times where the end user/consumer has suffered.
1. Dafuq does that have to do with anything?
2. ah I see, you categorized me as a "Bildt follower" just so you can assassinate me by association. Noice! Well played but... naah try again. That shit doesn´t fly here.
3. if "freedom of choice" backfires for some reason, then freedom ought to be suspended in favor of centrally planned alternatives? give me a break, not even real socialist doctors (not your kind of quasi-socialist) would accept that premise.
4. You want to talk about consumer suffering? Open up the USD/SEK or EUR/SEK chart and see what the currently lovely policies have done to the consumer.
>Your vision of Sweden would only benefit yourself and your own kind, business owners and employers, in the long run.
Sadly enough, That´s the exact opposite of what I am trying to achieve because if we keep on going the way we currently are, Sweden will be a graveyard a few decades from now. A businessman ALWAYS wants a strong and rich consumer so that he in turn can make money off of said consumer. My goal is to enrich the consumers of society not reduce their wealth. But then again, I can´t expect logic to come easy to a sophist.
- dgellow 7y agoYour points aren’t helped by personal attacks though ...
- dang 7y agoPlease follow the site guidelines even when someone else has broken them. If you react by breaking them yourself, it discredits your points and means your comment will probably get (correctly) moderated. It's much better to stick to making your substantive points thoughtfully. Let the audience see for themselves how you didn't take the bait; your case will be stronger for it, and you won't contribute to damaging the commons here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html