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> Meanwhile a healthy, young, gainfully employed person in France can take advantage of a wealth of social services and benefits. If they have such an amazing

> Meanwhile a healthy, young, gainfully employed person in France can take advantage of a wealth of social services and benefits. If they have such an amazing welfare system, then why are the French perennially rioting[1]? And why do so many recent French presidents have abysmal approval ratings[2]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_France#21st_century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unr... [2] Macron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_the_Emmanuel_Macron_presidency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_the_Emmanue... Hollande: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Hollande#Approval_ratings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Hollande#Approva... Sarkozy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Nicolas_Sarkozy#Opinion_polling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Nicolas_Sarkozy#...

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
The approval rating doesn't seem to be much better than US Gov't[0]. Also, the US is also constantly protesting too. What do you think Black Lives Matter, the Google Walkout, the Amazon protests in NYC, the current and ongoing unrest surrounding ICE camps, and the teachers union strike in LA are? 0. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx
- RestlessMind 7y ago
  But the GP was trying to point out how France is much better than the US. With a better system, I would expect less protests and better approval ratings.
  - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
    And I am arguing that approval ratings and protests may not be highly correlated or have causational relationships with the amount of social services.
  - bobwaycott 7y ago
    > I would expect less protests and better approval ratings. You must not know the French very well, or you wouldn’t expect this. :)
laurencerowe 7y ago
The French have a strong welfare system precisely because they are willing to take action and forcefully protest when it is threatened.
chinesempire 7y ago
> If they have such an amazing welfare system, then why are the French perennially rioting because they are alive and free.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago

The approval rating doesn't seem to be much better than US Gov't[0]. Also, the US is also constantly protesting too. What do you think Black Lives Matter, the Google Walkout, the Amazon protests in NYC, the current and ongoing unrest surrounding ICE camps, and the teachers union strike in LA are? 0. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx

RestlessMind 7y ago
But the GP was trying to point out how France is much better than the US. With a better system, I would expect less protests and better approval ratings.
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  And I am arguing that approval ratings and protests may not be highly correlated or have causational relationships with the amount of social services.
- bobwaycott 7y ago
  > I would expect less protests and better approval ratings. You must not know the French very well, or you wouldn’t expect this. :)

laurencerowe 7y ago

The French have a strong welfare system precisely because they are willing to take action and forcefully protest when it is threatened.

chinesempire 7y ago

> If they have such an amazing welfare system, then why are the French perennially rioting because they are alive and free.