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Is it common for C-level positions? What’s the overall percentage of non white dudes as you go higher up the ladder at these places? How many of the VCs are not

Is it common for C-level positions? What’s the overall percentage of non white dudes as you go higher up the ladder at these places? How many of the VCs are not white men? I ask because I think these questions are useful heuristics to look at how power is distributed within a company. If it is a group of white guys who make most of the money, manage most of the people, and own most of the business, discriminating amongst hires of roughly equal ability for entry level roles, that is one thing, and has its own legitimate questions to be asked. It would be pretty different from if a company, run, owned, and funded by women and people of color, was systematically discriminating against men with pale skin in all roles and positions and there were very few white guys at that company. My informed guess would be that, in tech in the US, anything approaching what you describe describe is closer to the first scenario than the second. Point being, if we are going to discuss discrimination, let’s discuss all of it, and not look at a painting through a microscope and call it red (unless it’s a Rothko ;) .

thrwaway69 7y ago
Isn't that just due to them having early push, mentors etc more than active discrimination? Again, I like to think all people discriminate somewhat if they see someone not familiar or from their groups. It is biological, you can try eliminate it as much as possible but it's never enough. What we can do possibly is probably ask whether white guys you speak of are being more discriminatory than someone else from other racial segment in those positions. Outside discrimination is a factor but what isn't talked about is the inter-discrimination due to the history of a specific culture, system etc. You will be discriminated for pursuing a different career choice in certain cultures or taking routes different than how your mentors did (which well was due to discrimination). If you think it's somehow due to discrimination for a person coming from a culture where one is more attracted or nutured for certain jobs or positions you don't think are good, then isn't that odd? Indians are often pushed into STEM engineering because of cultural notions alone without any more thought put into it than assuming it is a trip to high salary and rep. That oversimplication and gross attitude stops a lot of Indians from pursuing things they would have otherwise. White dude isn't discriminating them otherwise on those positions, the culture is. I often wonder why is there such dependence on for-profit corporates to drive cultural and environmental changes. Just somewhat astounding to me. Why isn't there more done from the government or public as a whole? Why are non profits not as visible as x for-profit shill making it known they are fighting discrimination by hiring more than there is in the supply chain. How is that fighting against discrimination from the bottom. Don't understand the focus on race either. The way everyone talks about millions or even billions of people being discriminated in the same way is a gross generalization or its ok somehow? Like thinking for a bit, if your race has millions of people while the specific disease you have, interests, background or lot of other stuff that might not have millions in representation and people constantly discriminate based on that. You would be hard pressed to take the later more seriously because of the statistical chance of falling prey to being discriminated.

thrwaway69 7y ago

Isn't that just due to them having early push, mentors etc more than active discrimination? Again, I like to think all people discriminate somewhat if they see someone not familiar or from their groups. It is biological, you can try eliminate it as much as possible but it's never enough. What we can do possibly is probably ask whether white guys you speak of are being more discriminatory than someone else from other racial segment in those positions. Outside discrimination is a factor but what isn't talked about is the inter-discrimination due to the history of a specific culture, system etc. You will be discriminated for pursuing a different career choice in certain cultures or taking routes different than how your mentors did (which well was due to discrimination). If you think it's somehow due to discrimination for a person coming from a culture where one is more attracted or nutured for certain jobs or positions you don't think are good, then isn't that odd? Indians are often pushed into STEM engineering because of cultural notions alone without any more thought put into it than assuming it is a trip to high salary and rep. That oversimplication and gross attitude stops a lot of Indians from pursuing things they would have otherwise. White dude isn't discriminating them otherwise on those positions, the culture is. I often wonder why is there such dependence on for-profit corporates to drive cultural and environmental changes. Just somewhat astounding to me. Why isn't there more done from the government or public as a whole? Why are non profits not as visible as x for-profit shill making it known they are fighting discrimination by hiring more than there is in the supply chain. How is that fighting against discrimination from the bottom. Don't understand the focus on race either. The way everyone talks about millions or even billions of people being discriminated in the same way is a gross generalization or its ok somehow? Like thinking for a bit, if your race has millions of people while the specific disease you have, interests, background or lot of other stuff that might not have millions in representation and people constantly discriminate based on that. You would be hard pressed to take the later more seriously because of the statistical chance of falling prey to being discriminated.