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That is a very surprising interpretation to me. What made you think the author was thinking about anyone outside the US?

tnolet 7y ago
Not OP, but it’s kinda besides the point. Using Twitter for this makes it global by default.
- lazyasciiart 7y ago
  It's not beside the point when the point is "he was trying to make non-americans feel bad".
  - j7ake 7y ago
    Indeed the original tweet could have been more US-centric than I originally read (the replies came from all over the world, I pointed out Nigeria because there was one reply from there) My main point wasn’t that he was trying to make non Americans bad but rather I don’t believe his premise that he was disclosing his salary information for a greater good of helping minorities and disadvantaged people. Again I support disclosing salary openly but disguising it as an act of social good sounds distasteful to me.
    - lazyasciiart 7y ago
      There is a lot of data showing that salary differences for women and minorities are reduced in environments where there is more available information about everyone's salaries, to the point where I thought it was generally taken for granted. I absolutely believe that the poster was sincere in his intent. If you haven't considered this before, here's an article that covers some of how it can help: https://www.bustle.com/p/sharing-salary-information-at-work-is-a-powerful-way-to-fight-the-gender-pay-gap-heres-how-to-do-it-8711500 https://www.bustle.com/p/sharing-salary-information-at-work-...
  - badfrog 7y ago
    > the point is "he was trying to make non-americans feel bad". I think it's much more likely that an American simply didn't bother to think that non-Americans would see the post.
dmitriid 7y ago
That's probably exactly the point. They disclose salary info in a global forum without any context. For example, to begin with: what country is this? What city? Is this before or after tax? If this is before tax, how much do you pay in taxes? etc. etc. etc. People joining in continue this trend, often with quips like "I make $145k a year, I'm underpaid". WTF? How is that underpaid? Oh? You probably mean "underpaid in a very specific area in the US"? The resulting "developer salaries" is a dick-measuring contest with no context or purpose.
- scarface74 7y ago
  It’s only a “dick measuring” contest if either you tie your self worth to salary or you think they do. When I see software developer salaries for SV companies, I’m mildly curious but I don’t look at them in envy. The two trade offs would be moving to the west coast and working for large companies. I’m interested in neither.
  - dmitriid 7y ago
    > It’s only a “dick measuring” contest if either you tie your self worth to salary or you think they do. It is such a contest no matter what you think or do. I'll let this mini-thread articulate it better than I ever could: https://twitter.com/HeidyKhlaaf/status/1228605658393718784 https://twitter.com/HeidyKhlaaf/status/1228605658393718784

tnolet 7y ago

Not OP, but it’s kinda besides the point. Using Twitter for this makes it global by default.

lazyasciiart 7y ago
It's not beside the point when the point is "he was trying to make non-americans feel bad".
- j7ake 7y ago
  Indeed the original tweet could have been more US-centric than I originally read (the replies came from all over the world, I pointed out Nigeria because there was one reply from there) My main point wasn’t that he was trying to make non Americans bad but rather I don’t believe his premise that he was disclosing his salary information for a greater good of helping minorities and disadvantaged people. Again I support disclosing salary openly but disguising it as an act of social good sounds distasteful to me.
  - lazyasciiart 7y ago
    There is a lot of data showing that salary differences for women and minorities are reduced in environments where there is more available information about everyone's salaries, to the point where I thought it was generally taken for granted. I absolutely believe that the poster was sincere in his intent. If you haven't considered this before, here's an article that covers some of how it can help: https://www.bustle.com/p/sharing-salary-information-at-work-is-a-powerful-way-to-fight-the-gender-pay-gap-heres-how-to-do-it-8711500 https://www.bustle.com/p/sharing-salary-information-at-work-...
- badfrog 7y ago
  > the point is "he was trying to make non-americans feel bad". I think it's much more likely that an American simply didn't bother to think that non-Americans would see the post.

dmitriid 7y ago

That's probably exactly the point. They disclose salary info in a global forum without any context. For example, to begin with: what country is this? What city? Is this before or after tax? If this is before tax, how much do you pay in taxes? etc. etc. etc. People joining in continue this trend, often with quips like "I make $145k a year, I'm underpaid". WTF? How is that underpaid? Oh? You probably mean "underpaid in a very specific area in the US"? The resulting "developer salaries" is a dick-measuring contest with no context or purpose.

scarface74 7y ago
It’s only a “dick measuring” contest if either you tie your self worth to salary or you think they do. When I see software developer salaries for SV companies, I’m mildly curious but I don’t look at them in envy. The two trade offs would be moving to the west coast and working for large companies. I’m interested in neither.
- dmitriid 7y ago
  > It’s only a “dick measuring” contest if either you tie your self worth to salary or you think they do. It is such a contest no matter what you think or do. I'll let this mini-thread articulate it better than I ever could: https://twitter.com/HeidyKhlaaf/status/1228605658393718784 https://twitter.com/HeidyKhlaaf/status/1228605658393718784