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Aviation only makes up about 2% of total global C02 emissions. Hardly even worth worrying about. Results will be much better if resources are focused on the big

Aviation only makes up about 2% of total global C02 emissions. Hardly even worth worrying about. Results will be much better if resources are focused on the big emitters (road transport, electricity/heating, and manufacturing).

ced 7y ago
Aviation only makes up about 2% of total global C02 emissions. Because the majority of humanity has never flown at all. What fraction of your CO2 emissions came from flying last year?
- postingawayonhn 7y ago
  Fair point, though I don't see any major problem even if air travel was to increase by 2 or 3 times, so long as we make significant reductions in other areas. I took 6 flights (~3,000km each). I would start with the immediate implementation of a tax (10%?, 20%?) on all new ICE vehicle sales. Revenue from this tax would be used to subsidize the purchase of EVs.
  - morsch 7y ago
    At approximately 1000 kg COeq per 3000 km trip[1]. Your budget for the whole year was 2300 kg. [1] https://www.atmosfair.de/en/offset/flight https://www.atmosfair.de/en/offset/flight
    - postingawayonhn 7y ago
      Where is 1,000kg coming from? I looked up one of my flights (actually only about 2,400km) using that calculator and only got 230kg (83kg of C02 and 173kg of "contrails, ozone formations, etc."). This flight was on a A321neo.
      - morsch 7y ago
        I took a random 7000 km flight and extrapolated. Sorry if that ended up off by such a large martin.
cantexplain 7y ago
I have read such arguments probably hundreds of times by now. Stuff like "Australia is only 1% of global emissions, why should we suffer the cost of going green?", "China and India produce way more CO2 than the US, the problem is not the US". It's getting ridiculous; everybody is shifting blame to something or someone else because we all think small chunks and, obviously, each one of those chunks, individually, doesn't contribute much in terms of percentages. If you think this way, nobody will ever get anything done.

ced 7y ago

Aviation only makes up about 2% of total global C02 emissions. Because the majority of humanity has never flown at all. What fraction of your CO2 emissions came from flying last year?

postingawayonhn 7y ago
Fair point, though I don't see any major problem even if air travel was to increase by 2 or 3 times, so long as we make significant reductions in other areas. I took 6 flights (~3,000km each). I would start with the immediate implementation of a tax (10%?, 20%?) on all new ICE vehicle sales. Revenue from this tax would be used to subsidize the purchase of EVs.
- morsch 7y ago
  At approximately 1000 kg COeq per 3000 km trip[1]. Your budget for the whole year was 2300 kg. [1] https://www.atmosfair.de/en/offset/flight https://www.atmosfair.de/en/offset/flight
  - postingawayonhn 7y ago
    Where is 1,000kg coming from? I looked up one of my flights (actually only about 2,400km) using that calculator and only got 230kg (83kg of C02 and 173kg of "contrails, ozone formations, etc."). This flight was on a A321neo.
    - morsch 7y ago
      I took a random 7000 km flight and extrapolated. Sorry if that ended up off by such a large martin.

cantexplain 7y ago

I have read such arguments probably hundreds of times by now. Stuff like "Australia is only 1% of global emissions, why should we suffer the cost of going green?", "China and India produce way more CO2 than the US, the problem is not the US". It's getting ridiculous; everybody is shifting blame to something or someone else because we all think small chunks and, obviously, each one of those chunks, individually, doesn't contribute much in terms of percentages. If you think this way, nobody will ever get anything done.