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> A way to reduce base load power requirements is to raise the rates for it. You are heading straight to a civil war. > A lot of power requirements can be tim

> A way to reduce base load power requirements is to raise the rates for it. You are heading straight to a civil war. > A lot of power requirements can be time shifted, as a residence is inherently a large battery. Go tell this to people living through Canadian winter with sub-zero temperature...

WalterBright 7y ago
> You are heading straight to a civil war. Just reduce the daytime rates. Besides, it doesn't make sense to have fixed electric rates 24/7 when the cost to supply it varies dramatically. Look at gasoline pump prices, they very all the time due to supply+demand and nobody is fighting a war over that. > Go tell this to people living through Canadian winter with sub-zero temperature. I agree that any solution that doesn't cover 100% of use cases is quite useless and inapplicable for the 98% of the population where it would work. Besides, I live in Seattle which is next to Canada, and this solution would work fine in the PNW climate, which includes Vancouver B.C.
- alacombe 7y ago
  > it doesn't make sense to have fixed electric rates 24/7 Electricity is the least popular form of heating in Canada, by far, dwelling are heated with gas furnace. This, and my supply prices are contractually locked for the next 5 years regardless of the actual market price. > Besides, I live in Seattle which is next to Canada, and this solution would work fine in the PNW climate, which includes Vancouver B.C. Come on, Seattle/lower mainland look like the tropics compared to the rest of Canada.
  - WalterBright 7y ago
    Most of the Canadian population is within 30 miles of the US border or something like that.
    - alacombe 7y ago
      Because the weather in Seattle is just like the weather in Calgary... or even Toronto !
      - WalterBright 7y ago
        Average temp in Toronto is 46.6 degrees Farenheit. It's 52 degrees in Seattle. Source: google
        alacombe 7y ago
        ... and there is a 2deg C average global temperature between the last ice age and now. Averages are irrelevant. Seattle has more constant temperature, whereas Toronto tends to min-max, and on top of that, you took the southernest Canadian city. But sure, continue thinking Canadian weather is the same as Seattle...
fulafel 7y ago
If Canadian houses are any good, they are well enough insulated that they work fine with the heat-battery mental model.

WalterBright 7y ago

> You are heading straight to a civil war. Just reduce the daytime rates. Besides, it doesn't make sense to have fixed electric rates 24/7 when the cost to supply it varies dramatically. Look at gasoline pump prices, they very all the time due to supply+demand and nobody is fighting a war over that. > Go tell this to people living through Canadian winter with sub-zero temperature. I agree that any solution that doesn't cover 100% of use cases is quite useless and inapplicable for the 98% of the population where it would work. Besides, I live in Seattle which is next to Canada, and this solution would work fine in the PNW climate, which includes Vancouver B.C.

alacombe 7y ago
> it doesn't make sense to have fixed electric rates 24/7 Electricity is the least popular form of heating in Canada, by far, dwelling are heated with gas furnace. This, and my supply prices are contractually locked for the next 5 years regardless of the actual market price. > Besides, I live in Seattle which is next to Canada, and this solution would work fine in the PNW climate, which includes Vancouver B.C. Come on, Seattle/lower mainland look like the tropics compared to the rest of Canada.
- WalterBright 7y ago
  Most of the Canadian population is within 30 miles of the US border or something like that.
  - alacombe 7y ago
    Because the weather in Seattle is just like the weather in Calgary... or even Toronto !
    - WalterBright 7y ago
      Average temp in Toronto is 46.6 degrees Farenheit. It's 52 degrees in Seattle. Source: google
      - alacombe 7y ago
        ... and there is a 2deg C average global temperature between the last ice age and now. Averages are irrelevant. Seattle has more constant temperature, whereas Toronto tends to min-max, and on top of that, you took the southernest Canadian city. But sure, continue thinking Canadian weather is the same as Seattle...

fulafel 7y ago

If Canadian houses are any good, they are well enough insulated that they work fine with the heat-battery mental model.