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Took me all of 10 minutes to set up irssi on a free google cloud vps many years ago. It's still chugging along. ~ uptime 23:22:27 up 787 days, 15:10,

by atomi 7y ago

Took me all of 10 minutes to set up irssi on a free google cloud vps many years ago. It's still chugging along. ~ uptime 23:22:27 up 787 days, 15:10, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 It's not that hard.

Carpetsmoker 7y ago
This is a lot of work (especially if you're not already familiar with these tools) compared to pretty much any other chat solution out there.
comex 7y ago
Not that hard, if you don't care about two things: - Typing latency - Access from mobile devices Many people don't care about those things; good for them. Unfortunately for me, I do. I can (and do) use a bouncer, which theoretically solves both problems: text entry is handled by my local IRC client rather than every keystroke going through a server, and I can run an IRC client on my phone. Unfortunately, bouncers are a rather poor approximation of true cross-device history/state synchronization; e.g. they don't sync unread messages. And they're generally slow and fiddly for various silly reasons. For example, most bouncers require you to make a separate connection for each IRC network, which is slower, and requires configuring each client device for each network, annoying if you have a lot of networks. Also, long backlogs can overload slow IRC clients, but typically the alternative to long backlogs is losing history, since there's no standard mechanism for clients to request history on demand. There are also some IRC clients that do "true" state synchronization, like Quassel or Weechat's relay mode, but none with a tolerable iPhone version, last I checked.
- hprotagonist 7y ago
  mosh solves my latency and mobile access issues handily. tmux, irssi, and mosh on a VPS and i’ve had that setup for IRC for ... pushing a decade?
- Wingy 7y ago
  I use The Lounge for IRC because I use iOS, Windows, and Linux.
  - comex 7y ago
    I haven’t used The Lounge; it looks well-designed, but I try to avoid web-based clients as they have a lot of overhead. It also doesn’t seem like The Lounge has any solution for push notifications on iOS. (Alas, most ‘native’ IRC clients for macOS have web views inside anyway, so avoiding web-based stuff may be a lost cause. But then I’m in no position to complain about Slack or Discord using Electron…)
- atomi 7y ago
  Check out Termux on Android. As mentioned you can use Mosh and you can use it with Termux.
op00to 7y ago
It is if your work IRC server is inside of the VPN and you travel.
mijndert 7y ago
So you don't ever install kernel patches? That's nothing to brag about.
- atomi 7y ago
  I wouldn't call it bragging. I just have a lot of trust that my current kernel is robust enough for this particular application. If there were a serious exploit I obviously would update.

by atomi 7y ago

Carpetsmoker 7y ago

This is a lot of work (especially if you're not already familiar with these tools) compared to pretty much any other chat solution out there.

comex 7y ago

Not that hard, if you don't care about two things: - Typing latency - Access from mobile devices Many people don't care about those things; good for them. Unfortunately for me, I do. I can (and do) use a bouncer, which theoretically solves both problems: text entry is handled by my local IRC client rather than every keystroke going through a server, and I can run an IRC client on my phone. Unfortunately, bouncers are a rather poor approximation of true cross-device history/state synchronization; e.g. they don't sync unread messages. And they're generally slow and fiddly for various silly reasons. For example, most bouncers require you to make a separate connection for each IRC network, which is slower, and requires configuring each client device for each network, annoying if you have a lot of networks. Also, long backlogs can overload slow IRC clients, but typically the alternative to long backlogs is losing history, since there's no standard mechanism for clients to request history on demand. There are also some IRC clients that do "true" state synchronization, like Quassel or Weechat's relay mode, but none with a tolerable iPhone version, last I checked.

hprotagonist 7y ago
mosh solves my latency and mobile access issues handily. tmux, irssi, and mosh on a VPS and i’ve had that setup for IRC for ... pushing a decade?
Wingy 7y ago
I use The Lounge for IRC because I use iOS, Windows, and Linux.
- comex 7y ago
  I haven’t used The Lounge; it looks well-designed, but I try to avoid web-based clients as they have a lot of overhead. It also doesn’t seem like The Lounge has any solution for push notifications on iOS. (Alas, most ‘native’ IRC clients for macOS have web views inside anyway, so avoiding web-based stuff may be a lost cause. But then I’m in no position to complain about Slack or Discord using Electron…)
atomi 7y ago
Check out Termux on Android. As mentioned you can use Mosh and you can use it with Termux.

op00to 7y ago

It is if your work IRC server is inside of the VPN and you travel.

mijndert 7y ago

So you don't ever install kernel patches? That's nothing to brag about.

atomi 7y ago
I wouldn't call it bragging. I just have a lot of trust that my current kernel is robust enough for this particular application. If there were a serious exploit I obviously would update.