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Bonobos do it. I'd wager humans' common ancestors practiced it, and we unlearned it over time on some groups. It's interesting that our two closest primate rel

Bonobos do it. I'd wager humans' common ancestors practiced it, and we unlearned it over time on some groups. It's interesting that our two closest primate relatives are Bonobos and Chimpanzees. Bonobos are highly sexual and their sex habits match the full range of human sexual behaviors. Chimpanzees practice tribal warfare can be horrific murderers. Humans exceed both our relative species in both of these areas.

qplex 7y ago
>Bonobos are highly sexual and their sex habits match the full range of human sexual behaviors. I think not. But matching a basic subset perhaps. E.g. I don't think you'll find many bonobos jerking off to internet porn.
- RandomInteger4 7y ago
  You're confusing the object for the verb. The sex habit is "jerking off" not "to internet porn", and all it takes is a simple youtube search for "bonobos jerking off" to see that you're wrong.
  - qplex 7y ago
    The point was that the sexual behaviour of bonobos does not match "full human range".
    - pimmen 7y ago
      That's like saying humans have evolved radically different behavior compared to 200 years ago because back then they couldn't travel to another celestial body. I would argue jerking off to Internet porn and jerking off to a fantasy are both exhibiting the same behavior, just like a polar explorer from the 19th century and a lunar explorer from the 20th century are exhibiting the same behavior.
      - qplex 7y ago
        Indeed the core of it is the capability for complex sexual fantasies, and human behaviour is not limited to simply just jerking off. I'm not saying humans 200 years ago were incapable of such things. What I'm saying is that bonobos don't read or write Kama Sutra.
        pimmen 7y ago
        Go back 20 000 years and modern humans didn’t write Kama Sutra either, because just like bonobos we lacked the technology and knowledge to write.
        qplex 7y ago
        We have very little actual knowledge of pre-historic humans to speculate about their sexual behaviours (and as with all other human behavior, I'm sure there is and has been great variance in this). In any case bonobos would not write Kama Sutra even in 20,000 years. Your timescale and argument is way off. Downvoters: I've no more apples for you.

qplex 7y ago

>Bonobos are highly sexual and their sex habits match the full range of human sexual behaviors. I think not. But matching a basic subset perhaps. E.g. I don't think you'll find many bonobos jerking off to internet porn.

RandomInteger4 7y ago
You're confusing the object for the verb. The sex habit is "jerking off" not "to internet porn", and all it takes is a simple youtube search for "bonobos jerking off" to see that you're wrong.
- qplex 7y ago
  The point was that the sexual behaviour of bonobos does not match "full human range".
  - pimmen 7y ago
    That's like saying humans have evolved radically different behavior compared to 200 years ago because back then they couldn't travel to another celestial body. I would argue jerking off to Internet porn and jerking off to a fantasy are both exhibiting the same behavior, just like a polar explorer from the 19th century and a lunar explorer from the 20th century are exhibiting the same behavior.
    - qplex 7y ago
      Indeed the core of it is the capability for complex sexual fantasies, and human behaviour is not limited to simply just jerking off. I'm not saying humans 200 years ago were incapable of such things. What I'm saying is that bonobos don't read or write Kama Sutra.
      - pimmen 7y ago
        Go back 20 000 years and modern humans didn’t write Kama Sutra either, because just like bonobos we lacked the technology and knowledge to write.
        qplex 7y ago
        We have very little actual knowledge of pre-historic humans to speculate about their sexual behaviours (and as with all other human behavior, I'm sure there is and has been great variance in this). In any case bonobos would not write Kama Sutra even in 20,000 years. Your timescale and argument is way off. Downvoters: I've no more apples for you.