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It's good to point it out. In the third world, if you hire 100 people for a 5-man project, people end up doing nothing but their own things. It's bad but it's

It's good to point it out. In the third world, if you hire 100 people for a 5-man project, people end up doing nothing but their own things. It's bad but it's obvious that something is going wrong. In the first world, if you hire 100 people for a 5-man project, people end up to invent and justify 100-man's job. Everyone's role would become their identity, everyone is busy and hardworking. The output is high, they would also have fancy analytics and reports. It's hard for a person to believe a 100-man busy project actually only needs 5 men.

kunglao 7y ago
This is so true man! I've seen this first hand both ways.
smt88 7y ago
> In the first world, if you hire 100 people for a 5-man project, people end up to invent and justify 100-man's job. Everyone's role would become their identity, everyone is busy and hardworking. The output is high, they would also have fancy analytics and reports. This is such utter nonsense that it's hard to believe you've worked in any human organization. People in the first and third world are not different species. A lot of white-collar first-world workers provide no value to their company at all.
- balladeer 7y ago
  Interesting. There are two contradicting unsubstantiated observations, or let's just say blatant generalisations, one gets downvoted another flourishes.
  - hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
    smt88's post was downvoted because it completely misunderstood the point of namelosw's post. smt88 wrote "A lot of white-collar first-world workers provide no value to their company at all." Well, in my reading of it, that was exactly namelosw's point. That is, the social pressure in first world countries, and the fact that so many have their identity tied up in their job, demands everyone looks 'busy' even when they are not really doing anything of value.
  - smt88 7y ago
    I made no generalizations. I did exactly the opposite: I pointed out that there are many exceptions to the 1st/3rd world generalizations, rendering them false.

kunglao 7y ago

This is so true man! I've seen this first hand both ways.

smt88 7y ago

> In the first world, if you hire 100 people for a 5-man project, people end up to invent and justify 100-man's job. Everyone's role would become their identity, everyone is busy and hardworking. The output is high, they would also have fancy analytics and reports. This is such utter nonsense that it's hard to believe you've worked in any human organization. People in the first and third world are not different species. A lot of white-collar first-world workers provide no value to their company at all.

balladeer 7y ago
Interesting. There are two contradicting unsubstantiated observations, or let's just say blatant generalisations, one gets downvoted another flourishes.
- hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
  smt88's post was downvoted because it completely misunderstood the point of namelosw's post. smt88 wrote "A lot of white-collar first-world workers provide no value to their company at all." Well, in my reading of it, that was exactly namelosw's point. That is, the social pressure in first world countries, and the fact that so many have their identity tied up in their job, demands everyone looks 'busy' even when they are not really doing anything of value.
- smt88 7y ago
  I made no generalizations. I did exactly the opposite: I pointed out that there are many exceptions to the 1st/3rd world generalizations, rendering them false.