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And you're misrepresenting what the OP is saying. Someone opposed to HOA and zoning isn't saying that it should be okay to locate a chemical plant next door to

And you're misrepresenting what the OP is saying. Someone opposed to HOA and zoning isn't saying that it should be okay to locate a chemical plant next door to a preschool. It's more that we as a society shouldn't let people with entrenched interests in the status quo dictate that we stay with the status quo even when it's clear how awful the status quo is. To wit if I want to raise chickens or garden in my suburban backyard that should be my right as long as the chickens don't get out or cause a ruckus. And if the chickens do cause a problem my neighbors' should be limited to seeking legal remedies and not preventing everyone from raising chickens in the future, as most chicken owners are generally responsible. That's very different from running a fracking rig and is much more like the things an HOA prevents you from doing.

jbattle 7y ago
I really don't think I'm misrepresenting. I tried to take a literal but good-faith reading of what the OP wrote: > You're not entitled to decide what other people do with their land. Zoning laws, development restrictions, and HOAs violate this principle - they give existing homeowners a collective power to decide what other homeowners can do with their private property. Zoning laws and HOAs are (some of the more common mechanisms) we currently arbitrate the boundaries of what are acceptable uses for a property. You say raising chickens should be your right. You say running a fracking rig should not be my right. What mechanism do you propose to negotiate that when people disagree? You mention legal remedies "if the chickens do cause a problem". Do you mean to say the process should be for a homeowner wait til the fracking rig is built and running AND causing actual harm BEFORE they have any right to object?
- korethr 7y ago
  Your reply ran straight away into an absurd reading of the post's point. There are scales where it is or is not practical to do various things. You might have noticed that fracking rigs, chemical plants, hog farms, et cetera, tend to take up a large area. All the various things one can do on a parcel of land cease to be worth trying to do once that parcel of land goes below a certain size. A fracking rig is unlikely to be practical to erect and operate in a typical suburban lot.

jbattle 7y ago

I really don't think I'm misrepresenting. I tried to take a literal but good-faith reading of what the OP wrote: > You're not entitled to decide what other people do with their land. Zoning laws, development restrictions, and HOAs violate this principle - they give existing homeowners a collective power to decide what other homeowners can do with their private property. Zoning laws and HOAs are (some of the more common mechanisms) we currently arbitrate the boundaries of what are acceptable uses for a property. You say raising chickens should be your right. You say running a fracking rig should not be my right. What mechanism do you propose to negotiate that when people disagree? You mention legal remedies "if the chickens do cause a problem". Do you mean to say the process should be for a homeowner wait til the fracking rig is built and running AND causing actual harm BEFORE they have any right to object?

korethr 7y ago
Your reply ran straight away into an absurd reading of the post's point. There are scales where it is or is not practical to do various things. You might have noticed that fracking rigs, chemical plants, hog farms, et cetera, tend to take up a large area. All the various things one can do on a parcel of land cease to be worth trying to do once that parcel of land goes below a certain size. A fracking rig is unlikely to be practical to erect and operate in a typical suburban lot.