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My personal site was posted on September 12, 1999, is still updated, and has no problems. It;s a static site that mostly uses straight HTML/CSS. There are a few

My personal site was posted on September 12, 1999, is still updated, and has no problems. It;s a static site that mostly uses straight HTML/CSS. There are a few scripts that generate pages, but generating HTML/CSS pretty easy. https://dwheeler.com https://dwheeler.com. Geocrasher said: > I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to build a site to last 25 years without numerous redesigns, build a static HTML page. Yes. I don't get paid to maintain my personal site, so simplicity and longevity are most important. If I have to rewrite things because of incompatible changes in the infrastructure components (e.g., Python2 to Python3), or because proprietary company C has decided to stop supporting product P that I depend on, then I have to spend time that doesn't actually provide any new value. Keeping things simple, and minimizing dependencies, can be useful. Like everything else, there's a trade-off.

jvanderbot 7y ago
You might say your website was designed to last[1] 1. https://jeffhuang.com/designed_to_last/ https://jeffhuang.com/designed_to_last/
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chipperyman573 7y ago
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- Arnavion 7y ago
  Answering your question will unfortunately defeat the purpose of that text being what it is.
- nostromo 7y ago
  spoiler alert rot13
sidarape 7y ago
You could use a static website generator such as Jekyll or Hugo. Then, if the tools stop working for any reason, you always have the generated HTML than you can update.
- iamaelephant 7y ago
  Or you could not do that. Did he not just show that his way works just fine?
- syntheticnature 7y ago
  They already are, hand-rolled: "There are a few scripts that generate pages"
- kaushalmodi 7y ago
  Hugo has a single static binary. So the site will always generate the same way with the same binary.
  - 2038AD 7y ago
    ... with the same execution environment
dmalvarado 7y ago
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Spreadfirefox https://wiki.mozilla.org/Spreadfirefox
smush 7y ago
No kidding. Already, I've found some interesting articles to read. I'm taking a look at https://dwheeler.com/essays/easy-cross-platform-gui.html https://dwheeler.com/essays/easy-cross-platform-gui.html, which has references to XULRunner etc. which since 2009 have fallen out of favor. Would you continue to recommend those wanting to invest in (for the 80% of use cases) wxWidgets for FLOSS cross-platform GUI apps? BoaConstructor et. al look interesting. Thanks for taking the time to look at this comment. If it helps give you some context, I'll throw in that I currently am most familiar with WinForms .NET apps or very small Win32 native applications, and have avoided JS successfully so far.
- dwheeler 7y ago
  A lot of that stuff is overtaken by events, but I clearly say that the essay was written in 2009. Nevertheless, if you wanted to see what I wrote in 2009, there it is. It hasn't disappeared from The Ether, there's a disturbingly large amount of information that was written only a few years ago and has totally disappeared. One of the reasons that much information has disappeared is because the website can no longer stay running. If your website is designed to last, then the information is more likely to stay available. Yes, I know it's more complicated than that. But it's a start.
- TingPing 7y ago
  wxWidgets is a poor platform abstraction that just results in the lowest common denominator of UI.
  - aasasd 7y ago
    I haven't seen any cross-platform widget APIs that allow you to build a MacOS toolbar, for example―at least among the popular APIs. You mostly can only specify that the titlebar and the toolbar should be merged. Qt can draw something, but it will look like a Qt toolbar, not a Mac one. So I don't see how WxWidgets is an outlier here.
  - stjohnswarts 7y ago
    It's fine for small apps and in-company utilities and isn't hard to use at all if you're a c++ house.
typicalphil 7y ago
This. Notice how simplicity is also the most important thing for users. Typography and graphics aside, it's remarkable to see how modern your layout looks.

jvanderbot 7y ago

You might say your website was designed to last[1] 1. https://jeffhuang.com/designed_to_last/ https://jeffhuang.com/designed_to_last/

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chipperyman573 7y ago

Pbatengf, lbh'ir qrpbqrq zl frperg zrffntr. Fbeel, ab cevmrf. ?

Arnavion 7y ago
Answering your question will unfortunately defeat the purpose of that text being what it is.
nostromo 7y ago
spoiler alert rot13

sidarape 7y ago

You could use a static website generator such as Jekyll or Hugo. Then, if the tools stop working for any reason, you always have the generated HTML than you can update.

iamaelephant 7y ago
Or you could not do that. Did he not just show that his way works just fine?
syntheticnature 7y ago
They already are, hand-rolled: "There are a few scripts that generate pages"
kaushalmodi 7y ago
Hugo has a single static binary. So the site will always generate the same way with the same binary.
- 2038AD 7y ago
  ... with the same execution environment

dmalvarado 7y ago

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Spreadfirefox https://wiki.mozilla.org/Spreadfirefox

smush 7y ago

No kidding. Already, I've found some interesting articles to read. I'm taking a look at https://dwheeler.com/essays/easy-cross-platform-gui.html https://dwheeler.com/essays/easy-cross-platform-gui.html, which has references to XULRunner etc. which since 2009 have fallen out of favor. Would you continue to recommend those wanting to invest in (for the 80% of use cases) wxWidgets for FLOSS cross-platform GUI apps? BoaConstructor et. al look interesting. Thanks for taking the time to look at this comment. If it helps give you some context, I'll throw in that I currently am most familiar with WinForms .NET apps or very small Win32 native applications, and have avoided JS successfully so far.

dwheeler 7y ago
A lot of that stuff is overtaken by events, but I clearly say that the essay was written in 2009. Nevertheless, if you wanted to see what I wrote in 2009, there it is. It hasn't disappeared from The Ether, there's a disturbingly large amount of information that was written only a few years ago and has totally disappeared. One of the reasons that much information has disappeared is because the website can no longer stay running. If your website is designed to last, then the information is more likely to stay available. Yes, I know it's more complicated than that. But it's a start.
TingPing 7y ago
wxWidgets is a poor platform abstraction that just results in the lowest common denominator of UI.
- aasasd 7y ago
  I haven't seen any cross-platform widget APIs that allow you to build a MacOS toolbar, for example―at least among the popular APIs. You mostly can only specify that the titlebar and the toolbar should be merged. Qt can draw something, but it will look like a Qt toolbar, not a Mac one. So I don't see how WxWidgets is an outlier here.
- stjohnswarts 7y ago
  It's fine for small apps and in-company utilities and isn't hard to use at all if you're a c++ house.

typicalphil 7y ago

This. Notice how simplicity is also the most important thing for users. Typography and graphics aside, it's remarkable to see how modern your layout looks.