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Samsung manufactures their processor. But the design of the A4 was done in-house by Apple. Edit: It does appear that Samsung helped design it, thanks for the c

Samsung manufactures their processor. But the design of the A4 was done in-house by Apple. Edit: It does appear that Samsung helped design it, thanks for the correction HN :) I think my overall point still stands though

patrickaljord 16y ago
A4 is just a customized version of the latest ARM.
- whakojacko 16y ago
  Sure, but basically every mobile processor "is just a customized version" of some ARM design. My point is that Apple goes out of their way to control the design/performance instead of taking an off the shelf TI/Qualcomm/NVIDIA etc chip
  - detst 16y ago
    But the context of this discussion is that getting to market with hardware is hard. "[C]ontrol[ing] the design/performance" is only going to make that more difficult, not easier, than going off-the-self.
  - akgerber 16y ago
    Qualcomm's recent apps processors are in-house designs by an ex-IBM team. I believe Nvidia's are, as well.
martythemaniak 16y ago
"The Cortex-A8 core used in the A4 is thought to use performance enhancements developed by chip designer Intrinsity (which was subsequently acquired by Apple)[10] in collaboration with Samsung.[11] The resulting core, dubbed "Hummingbird".. is also used in Samsung's S5PC110A01 SoC." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4 The Samsung Galaxy S has the S5PC110 processor. This processor combines a 45 nm 1 GHz ARM Cortex A8 based CPU core with a PowerVR SGX 540 GPU made by Imagination Technologies which supports OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0[21] and is capable of up to 20 million triangles per second.[3] The CPU core, code-named "Hummingbird", was co-developed by Samsung and Intrinsity.[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#Processor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#Processor I guess you also consider added a wing and a skirt to a Civic "original design", with the car merely "manufactured" by Honda.
- whakojacko 16y ago
  point taken, edit added
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patrickaljord 16y ago

A4 is just a customized version of the latest ARM.

whakojacko 16y ago
Sure, but basically every mobile processor "is just a customized version" of some ARM design. My point is that Apple goes out of their way to control the design/performance instead of taking an off the shelf TI/Qualcomm/NVIDIA etc chip
- detst 16y ago
  But the context of this discussion is that getting to market with hardware is hard. "[C]ontrol[ing] the design/performance" is only going to make that more difficult, not easier, than going off-the-self.
- akgerber 16y ago
  Qualcomm's recent apps processors are in-house designs by an ex-IBM team. I believe Nvidia's are, as well.

martythemaniak 16y ago

"The Cortex-A8 core used in the A4 is thought to use performance enhancements developed by chip designer Intrinsity (which was subsequently acquired by Apple)[10] in collaboration with Samsung.[11] The resulting core, dubbed "Hummingbird".. is also used in Samsung's S5PC110A01 SoC." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4 The Samsung Galaxy S has the S5PC110 processor. This processor combines a 45 nm 1 GHz ARM Cortex A8 based CPU core with a PowerVR SGX 540 GPU made by Imagination Technologies which supports OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0[21] and is capable of up to 20 million triangles per second.[3] The CPU core, code-named "Hummingbird", was co-developed by Samsung and Intrinsity.[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#Processor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#Processor I guess you also consider added a wing and a skirt to a Civic "original design", with the car merely "manufactured" by Honda.

whakojacko 16y ago
point taken, edit added

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