"Personally I would argue that it is no more complex than JSP/JSF/Spring or ASP.NET/Web Components / Web Forms" Both of these stacks are themselves deprecated

"Personally I would argue that it is no more complex than JSP/JSF/Spring or ASP.NET/Web Components / Web Forms" Both of these stacks are themselves deprecated and replaced by better solutions in the same ecosystem. "We're only as bad as 10-15 year old stacks" is hardly a compelling argument.