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Ah, yes, the only terminal emulator which phones home to Microsoft to let them know what you've been doing with it. Or you could just, you know, actually use L

Ah, yes, the only terminal emulator which phones home to Microsoft to let them know what you've been doing with it. Or you could just, you know, actually use Linux or BSD.

bootlooped 7y ago
My work dictates that I use an issued Thinkpad or a Macbook Pro, and we are not allowed to install our own OS choices on those. I like the Thinkpads they give us more, especially since the Macs have the widely reviled touch bar. WSL and the new Windows Terminal have been great tools for me.
- oneplane 7y ago
  Just a reminder: your work is wrong. The idea behind is that they have 'supported configurations' where 'supported' often means 'trying to reduce service desk load' and 'pretending that imaging a system once and then hoping the lifecycle on all of them is the same'. In reality that is almost never the case (unless the systems are reduced to barely usable configurations), and you end up with a system that is only 'work-supportable' on the surface, while being a pain for everyone else. Some of the recent changes I've seen happening at an increasing scale is having practical support levels: - fully-managed - half-managed - BOYO (Being on your own) This is then applied to both company-delivered systems as well as BYOD systems. Combined with standard interrogation tools like osquery you can get a much better picture of what is happening and what level of compliance you can measure. Instead of them implicitly trusting or hoping a device is okay you actually get to measure it. This enables a BOYO-BYOD BSD fanboy to present themselves as being in-spec and compliant while being in their own comfortable environment for maximum productivity. At the same time, someone who has a hard time figuring out how to turn a laptop on just goes for fully-managed, still gets measured periodically and on-access and gets a generic experience allowing normal-people productivity.
seabrookmx 7y ago
It's open source. You mind pointing out in the code where it "phones home to Microsoft to let them know what you've been doing with it"?
- deleted 7y ago
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- jannes 7y ago
  I got a firewall popup when I opened Windows Terminal today. I forgot which IPs it was trying to communicate with, but it definitely tried to open some kind of connection.
  - DHowett 7y ago
    Would you mind reporting this on our public tracker[1]? We absolutely do not expect there to be any outgoing connections unless you explicitly request them. Everything we're shipping is something visible in our public source, so you don't need to take my comment at face value. [1] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
- ddevault 7y ago
  https://github.com/Microsoft/Terminal/blob/master/src/terminal/parser/telemetry.cpp https://github.com/Microsoft/Terminal/blob/master/src/termin... https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/blob/master/src/terminal/parser/tracing.cpp https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/blob/master/src/termin... See also the corresponding hpp files.
  - DHowett 7y ago
    Funny enough, I crawled through this exact code to comment on another thread[1] about telemetry in the console, but did so before the code was open-source. The files you're linking to--specifically in terminal/parser--serve to tell a local developer running a text-mode application what VT sequences are in common use to help that developer figure out where to apply effort. We can also request that people enable these traces and explicitly view their contents, then choose to send us the data to help us troubleshoot VT parsing issues. There trace logs aren't even wired up to the "telemetry" stream that everybody's so afraid of: TraceLogging is a local data capture solution first and foremost, and anybody can look at what's being produced using Windows Performance Analyzer. Nothing from this tracing provider leaves the user's computer. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19322398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19322398, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19324538 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19324538

Ah, yes, the only terminal emulator which phones home to Microsoft to let them know what you've been doing with it. Or you could just, you know, actually use Linux or BSD.

bootlooped 7y ago

My work dictates that I use an issued Thinkpad or a Macbook Pro, and we are not allowed to install our own OS choices on those. I like the Thinkpads they give us more, especially since the Macs have the widely reviled touch bar. WSL and the new Windows Terminal have been great tools for me.

oneplane 7y ago
Just a reminder: your work is wrong. The idea behind is that they have 'supported configurations' where 'supported' often means 'trying to reduce service desk load' and 'pretending that imaging a system once and then hoping the lifecycle on all of them is the same'. In reality that is almost never the case (unless the systems are reduced to barely usable configurations), and you end up with a system that is only 'work-supportable' on the surface, while being a pain for everyone else. Some of the recent changes I've seen happening at an increasing scale is having practical support levels: - fully-managed - half-managed - BOYO (Being on your own) This is then applied to both company-delivered systems as well as BYOD systems. Combined with standard interrogation tools like osquery you can get a much better picture of what is happening and what level of compliance you can measure. Instead of them implicitly trusting or hoping a device is okay you actually get to measure it. This enables a BOYO-BYOD BSD fanboy to present themselves as being in-spec and compliant while being in their own comfortable environment for maximum productivity. At the same time, someone who has a hard time figuring out how to turn a laptop on just goes for fully-managed, still gets measured periodically and on-access and gets a generic experience allowing normal-people productivity.

seabrookmx 7y ago

It's open source. You mind pointing out in the code where it "phones home to Microsoft to let them know what you've been doing with it"?

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jannes 7y ago
I got a firewall popup when I opened Windows Terminal today. I forgot which IPs it was trying to communicate with, but it definitely tried to open some kind of connection.
- DHowett 7y ago
  Would you mind reporting this on our public tracker[1]? We absolutely do not expect there to be any outgoing connections unless you explicitly request them. Everything we're shipping is something visible in our public source, so you don't need to take my comment at face value. [1] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
ddevault 7y ago
https://github.com/Microsoft/Terminal/blob/master/src/terminal/parser/telemetry.cpp https://github.com/Microsoft/Terminal/blob/master/src/termin... https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/blob/master/src/terminal/parser/tracing.cpp https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/blob/master/src/termin... See also the corresponding hpp files.
- DHowett 7y ago
  Funny enough, I crawled through this exact code to comment on another thread[1] about telemetry in the console, but did so before the code was open-source. The files you're linking to--specifically in terminal/parser--serve to tell a local developer running a text-mode application what VT sequences are in common use to help that developer figure out where to apply effort. We can also request that people enable these traces and explicitly view their contents, then choose to send us the data to help us troubleshoot VT parsing issues. There trace logs aren't even wired up to the "telemetry" stream that everybody's so afraid of: TraceLogging is a local data capture solution first and foremost, and anybody can look at what's being produced using Windows Performance Analyzer. Nothing from this tracing provider leaves the user's computer. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19322398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19322398, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19324538 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19324538