I'm not at all convinced that the heavyweight toolchains have led to any improvement in webapp quality. Maybe there are rockstar apps out there I just haven't s

I'm not at all convinced that the heavyweight toolchains have led to any improvement in webapp quality. Maybe there are rockstar apps out there I just haven't seen, but for the most part the web these days is vastly more bloated and somewhat less stable than it used to be, without doing anything more that any user actually wants. This is not progress.