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I'm certain that as the famous musicians die off or retire from performing, there will be a huge business of recreating their sound and generating new material.

by tcbawo 7y ago

RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
This will be kind of sad since this will limit the market for new musicians and new styles. We will get so caught up with preserving the past, that we will ignore opportunities of the present.
- 52-6F-62 7y ago
  I like to give humanity the benefit of the doubt in these cases. I’m not sure if that’s right, but I’d certainly rather not let it taint my appreciation of music. I don’t think it will stop people from creating either. But you might, unfortunately, be onto something with regard to the market. Maybe less because of what people appreciate, and more because the suits will pursue the lowest common denominator with the highest revenue potential.
- birdyrooster 7y ago
  Everything is a remix, everything contemporary has history.
a_bonobo 7y ago
I've posted this on HN before, NHK 'raised' one dead singer who sang a new song for this year's New Years special using similar tech: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2020/01/10/films/nhk-raises-dead-kohaku-mixed-reviews/?hootPostID=56dfc4a008194c25483ea66ed5978aaf https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2020/01/10/films/nhk-ra... It's starting!
krapp 7y ago
Using famous actors for promotions after they die is already a business[0]. But why bother with living musicians or their estates at all? Use deepfake technology to generate a physical persona, and AI to generate a voice and style, all unique enough to be legally distinct and copyrightable, and fully owned by a company. Live performances can even be done via hologram. I can easily imagine a future where most creative media, including movies, is entirely or almost entirely AI generated. Certainly, actors and performers won't be real people. [0]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/539a5z/hollywoods-post-biological-future-where-actors-can-perform-after-death https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/539a5z/hollywoods-post-bi...
clSTophEjUdRanu 7y ago
That's the first thing that comes to mind for me as well. More Zappa? More Bradley Nowell? Hell yes! Then I think this is a curse. Internet pranksters generate 1,000,000 amazing new Frank Zappa songs and laugh. Your life is meaningless. You are nothing.
- tcbawo 7y ago
  Besides imitating the singing voice of a person, training models to creating new music in an artist's style could make for an interesting use case of crowdsourcing.
airstrike 7y ago
I can't wait for AI to recreate the unique sound of Her's, an incredibly remarkable duo from Liverpool which I just recently came across... only to find out a few days later that they died in a tragic, unfathomable, unfair car accident along with their tour manager after a concert in the US last year.

I'm certain that as the famous musicians die off or retire from performing, there will be a huge business of recreating their sound and generating new material.

by tcbawo 7y ago

I'm certain that as the famous musicians die off or retire from performing, there will be a huge business of recreating their sound and generating new material.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago

This will be kind of sad since this will limit the market for new musicians and new styles. We will get so caught up with preserving the past, that we will ignore opportunities of the present.

52-6F-62 7y ago
I like to give humanity the benefit of the doubt in these cases. I’m not sure if that’s right, but I’d certainly rather not let it taint my appreciation of music. I don’t think it will stop people from creating either. But you might, unfortunately, be onto something with regard to the market. Maybe less because of what people appreciate, and more because the suits will pursue the lowest common denominator with the highest revenue potential.
birdyrooster 7y ago
Everything is a remix, everything contemporary has history.

a_bonobo 7y ago

I've posted this on HN before, NHK 'raised' one dead singer who sang a new song for this year's New Years special using similar tech: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2020/01/10/films/nhk-raises-dead-kohaku-mixed-reviews/?hootPostID=56dfc4a008194c25483ea66ed5978aaf https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2020/01/10/films/nhk-ra... It's starting!

krapp 7y ago

Using famous actors for promotions after they die is already a business[0]. But why bother with living musicians or their estates at all? Use deepfake technology to generate a physical persona, and AI to generate a voice and style, all unique enough to be legally distinct and copyrightable, and fully owned by a company. Live performances can even be done via hologram. I can easily imagine a future where most creative media, including movies, is entirely or almost entirely AI generated. Certainly, actors and performers won't be real people. [0]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/539a5z/hollywoods-post-biological-future-where-actors-can-perform-after-death https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/539a5z/hollywoods-post-bi...

clSTophEjUdRanu 7y ago

That's the first thing that comes to mind for me as well. More Zappa? More Bradley Nowell? Hell yes! Then I think this is a curse. Internet pranksters generate 1,000,000 amazing new Frank Zappa songs and laugh. Your life is meaningless. You are nothing.

tcbawo 7y ago
Besides imitating the singing voice of a person, training models to creating new music in an artist's style could make for an interesting use case of crowdsourcing.

airstrike 7y ago

I can't wait for AI to recreate the unique sound of Her's, an incredibly remarkable duo from Liverpool which I just recently came across... only to find out a few days later that they died in a tragic, unfathomable, unfair car accident along with their tour manager after a concert in the US last year.