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I am mostly just disappointed in the absolute lack of creativity in their suggestions. Even The Anarchist Cookbook is a better read :(

by jascii 7y ago

derision 7y ago
Creative methods are not always the most effective.
- Haga 7y ago
  Spoken like someone in a industry with exponential growth rates.. In war times over produce the tank with the biggest tech debt.
CamperBob2 7y ago
I dunno. The part about bringing a bag full of moths to a theater showing propaganda films is kind of amusing. I'll admit I would not have thought of that. Then again, they also tell you to short out your own electrical outlets so that nobody else in the apartment building can listen to the radio. I wouldn't have thought of that, either.
- h2odragon 7y ago
  "bag full of moths" That sounds good, but... how to catch and transport more than a couple and keep them viable? they're really delicate critters. Shorting your outlets (i assume) to take out the building? What? Breakers and fuses exist to prevent that.
  - godelski 7y ago
    You don't have a moth guy? But in all seriousness, I'm not sure how long it would take, but a quick amazon search showed you could get moth larva as bait.
    - jsilence 7y ago
      Yeah, and our modern day pervasive surveillance would quickly reveal who is buying moths like crazy.
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        Go into a fishing store, pay cash. People sell weird stuff. I remember a co-worker coming to the office the other day with two bags that... moved. One contained live grasshoppers, the other locusts. Turns out he has a pet spider, and bought food for it on his way to work.
      - thinkingemote 7y ago
        Moths are outside you don't need to buy them. Crikey not everything needs to be bought via Amazon.
  - Enginerrrd 7y ago
    Have you no imagination? Radio broadcast: "And up next,we have a word from our party leaders." /* Shorts oulet, trips breaker. /* Management / Maintenance takes 10 minutes to sort through confusion and diagnose and figure out the problem is a tripped breaker. /* Flip breaker, Radios back on "...and that's the word from our Glorious leader. Next up, the Beatles"
    - krustyburger 7y ago
      If only the propaganda broadcasts had been more often followed by Beatles music, maybe we wouldn’t have had to wage the Cold War.
      - nkozyra 7y ago
        Here's the kicker: we didn't have to have the cold war.
        analognoise 7y ago
        I'll bite - why wasn't the cold war a necessary result of the geopolitical tensions at the time?
        Apocryphon 7y ago
        Here’s one possibility: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jun/17/russia.iantraynor https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jun/17/russia.iantray... https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/molotovs-proposal-the-ussr-join-nato-march-1954 https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/molotovs-proposal-t...
        CamperBob2 7y ago
        Because Molotov's last big idea for an alliance worked out so well...
        analognoise 7y ago
  - xattt 7y ago
    The document is from 1944. I believe that breakers were only an innovation in the last 30-40 years. Fuses would have been used instead.
    - serf 7y ago
      modern breakers are from the 20s, the originals are from the 1879. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        Interesting. Living in Poland, I only remember seeing fuses in apartment buildings; circuit breakers started to show up everywhere only around the early 2000s.
      - xattt 7y ago
        I tried searching, but couldn’t find details when they became an National Electrical Code requirement. I’ve lived in a 1980s construction building where there was still a fuse box. (Most of the results I came across were around the recent AFCI requirement for breakers in residential construction.)
  - Teever 7y ago
    Bed bugs. The modern equivalent would be bedbugs. Breeding them would be comically easy, and distributing them in public places would be extremely hard to detect. Buses, doctors offices, libraries, offices, You could cause a lot of damage with this.
    - arh68 7y ago
      Ok, but why?? https://www.complex.com/life/2020/01/police-investigating-someone-brought-bed-bugs-pennsylvania-walmart https://www.complex.com/life/2020/01/police-investigating-so...
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        Sabotage, obviously. Sounds like a cheap way to really screw with morale in an industrial town that's building the parts for the bombs intended to be dropped on your homeland.
- tonyarkles 7y ago
  > short out your own electrical outlets so that nobody else in the apartment building can listen to the radio Keep in mind the vintage of the document. At the time, it's likely that fused electrical circuits would be shared between multiple apartments. At least in North America, it's very very likely that each apartment would have its own panel.
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  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    We could adjust that suggestion to modern times and give a guide to create an electric arc that stays just under your fuse's break point - the goal being to create enough broad-spectrum RF interference to jam radio electronics for everyone else in the building. (IANAEE, but a hardware hacker colleague of old told me a story years ago, about a DIY device you could plug into mains which (AFAIR) dumped high frequencies into the wire, and this would screw with television sets and lots of other sensitive electronics, everywhere in the circuit up to the next large transformer. He also told me the best place to plug it in would be a street light; it could kill all the TVs in a group of apartment buildings.)
    - tonyarkles 7y ago
      > We could adjust that suggestion to modern times and give a guide to create an electric arc that stays just under your fuse's break point That is delightfully disgusting :). There might be some heat problems, but in the Canadian Winter, having an extra 1750W of electric arc heating wouldn't be too bad!
- mattrp 7y ago
  My great aunt married a Norwegian who was a teenager in WWII... he told us a story once that he and some other kids wanted to know what they could do and they were told to carry laxatives with them and drop them into any open container they saw.
some_random 7y ago
And unlike the creative parts of the Anarchist's Cookbook, the CIA's suggestions actually work.
- TaylorAlexander 7y ago
  I’ve always wanted to try filling a tennis ball with match heads though!
  - ssklash 7y ago
    It really does work! Have to use strike anywhere matches though.
azernik 7y ago
Boring but effective.

I am mostly just disappointed in the absolute lack of creativity in their suggestions. Even The Anarchist Cookbook is a better read :(

by jascii 7y ago

I am mostly just disappointed in the absolute lack of creativity in their suggestions. Even The Anarchist Cookbook is a better read :(

derision 7y ago

Creative methods are not always the most effective.

Haga 7y ago
Spoken like someone in a industry with exponential growth rates.. In war times over produce the tank with the biggest tech debt.

CamperBob2 7y ago

I dunno. The part about bringing a bag full of moths to a theater showing propaganda films is kind of amusing. I'll admit I would not have thought of that. Then again, they also tell you to short out your own electrical outlets so that nobody else in the apartment building can listen to the radio. I wouldn't have thought of that, either.

h2odragon 7y ago
"bag full of moths" That sounds good, but... how to catch and transport more than a couple and keep them viable? they're really delicate critters. Shorting your outlets (i assume) to take out the building? What? Breakers and fuses exist to prevent that.
- godelski 7y ago
  You don't have a moth guy? But in all seriousness, I'm not sure how long it would take, but a quick amazon search showed you could get moth larva as bait.
  - jsilence 7y ago
    Yeah, and our modern day pervasive surveillance would quickly reveal who is buying moths like crazy.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Go into a fishing store, pay cash. People sell weird stuff. I remember a co-worker coming to the office the other day with two bags that... moved. One contained live grasshoppers, the other locusts. Turns out he has a pet spider, and bought food for it on his way to work.
    - thinkingemote 7y ago
      Moths are outside you don't need to buy them. Crikey not everything needs to be bought via Amazon.
- Enginerrrd 7y ago
  Have you no imagination? Radio broadcast: "And up next,we have a word from our party leaders." /* Shorts oulet, trips breaker. /* Management / Maintenance takes 10 minutes to sort through confusion and diagnose and figure out the problem is a tripped breaker. /* Flip breaker, Radios back on "...and that's the word from our Glorious leader. Next up, the Beatles"
  - krustyburger 7y ago
    If only the propaganda broadcasts had been more often followed by Beatles music, maybe we wouldn’t have had to wage the Cold War.
    - nkozyra 7y ago
      Here's the kicker: we didn't have to have the cold war.
      - analognoise 7y ago
        I'll bite - why wasn't the cold war a necessary result of the geopolitical tensions at the time?
        Apocryphon 7y ago
        Here’s one possibility: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jun/17/russia.iantraynor https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jun/17/russia.iantray... https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/molotovs-proposal-the-ussr-join-nato-march-1954 https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/molotovs-proposal-t...
        CamperBob2 7y ago
        Because Molotov's last big idea for an alliance worked out so well...
        analognoise 7y ago
- xattt 7y ago
  The document is from 1944. I believe that breakers were only an innovation in the last 30-40 years. Fuses would have been used instead.
  - serf 7y ago
    modern breakers are from the 20s, the originals are from the 1879. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Interesting. Living in Poland, I only remember seeing fuses in apartment buildings; circuit breakers started to show up everywhere only around the early 2000s.
    - xattt 7y ago
      I tried searching, but couldn’t find details when they became an National Electrical Code requirement. I’ve lived in a 1980s construction building where there was still a fuse box. (Most of the results I came across were around the recent AFCI requirement for breakers in residential construction.)
- Teever 7y ago
  Bed bugs. The modern equivalent would be bedbugs. Breeding them would be comically easy, and distributing them in public places would be extremely hard to detect. Buses, doctors offices, libraries, offices, You could cause a lot of damage with this.
  - arh68 7y ago
    Ok, but why?? https://www.complex.com/life/2020/01/police-investigating-someone-brought-bed-bugs-pennsylvania-walmart https://www.complex.com/life/2020/01/police-investigating-so...
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Sabotage, obviously. Sounds like a cheap way to really screw with morale in an industrial town that's building the parts for the bombs intended to be dropped on your homeland.
tonyarkles 7y ago
> short out your own electrical outlets so that nobody else in the apartment building can listen to the radio Keep in mind the vintage of the document. At the time, it's likely that fused electrical circuits would be shared between multiple apartments. At least in North America, it's very very likely that each apartment would have its own panel.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  We could adjust that suggestion to modern times and give a guide to create an electric arc that stays just under your fuse's break point - the goal being to create enough broad-spectrum RF interference to jam radio electronics for everyone else in the building. (IANAEE, but a hardware hacker colleague of old told me a story years ago, about a DIY device you could plug into mains which (AFAIR) dumped high frequencies into the wire, and this would screw with television sets and lots of other sensitive electronics, everywhere in the circuit up to the next large transformer. He also told me the best place to plug it in would be a street light; it could kill all the TVs in a group of apartment buildings.)
  - tonyarkles 7y ago
    > We could adjust that suggestion to modern times and give a guide to create an electric arc that stays just under your fuse's break point That is delightfully disgusting :). There might be some heat problems, but in the Canadian Winter, having an extra 1750W of electric arc heating wouldn't be too bad!
mattrp 7y ago
My great aunt married a Norwegian who was a teenager in WWII... he told us a story once that he and some other kids wanted to know what they could do and they were told to carry laxatives with them and drop them into any open container they saw.

some_random 7y ago

And unlike the creative parts of the Anarchist's Cookbook, the CIA's suggestions actually work.

TaylorAlexander 7y ago
I’ve always wanted to try filling a tennis ball with match heads though!
- ssklash 7y ago
  It really does work! Have to use strike anywhere matches though.

azernik 7y ago

Boring but effective.