I think kabdib's point is that the incentives of certification authorities aren't aligned with the purported goal of the certification process. We already have

I think kabdib's point is that the incentives of certification authorities aren't aligned with the purported goal of the certification process. We already have all sorts of certifications (in specific technologies, "agile" practices, etc.) but I don't think most engineers see those certifications as providing any value. The only thing I'm aware of that seems to actually work is to hold engineers accountable for results and give them the autonomy to set their own process. I would argue that even very rigorous methodologies like NASA's Systems Engineering[0] process match that description. [0] https://www.nasa.gov/connect/ebooks/nasa-systems-engineering-handbook https://www.nasa.gov/connect/ebooks/nasa-systems-engineering...