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> a) you speak something roughly approaching English Whoa there, down with that sort of stuff now friend. That's not a nice thing to say.

tpmx 7y ago
I thought quite a bit about that line. I ended up editing it to "~English" in the end, perhaps ten minutes before you commented. Don't you think that's fair? Irish English, to me, seems like a distinct/unique language. Very similar to English, sure. I mean.. I don't think americans are speaking English, typically, if that's any help. They're speaking American, which is a fork of English from some point in time.
- gwd 7y ago
  The word you're looking for is "dialect".
  - tpmx 7y ago
    Nah. These people were just looking to downvote someone who were against their tax evasion cash cow. That's where their outrage comes from. Any other outrage is a misdirection.
    - gwd 7y ago
      "They're speaking a sort of English" certainly sounds demeaning to me. The people in Ireland (and the US, and India, and Singapore) are speaking English -- different dialects of English. And FWIW, many of the divergences between American and British English, such as dropping the 'r' at the end of syllables, are actually changes on the British side after the colonies were formed.
      - tpmx 7y ago
        Thank you for being a tool fixating on that one point to distract from the main issue: Hint: it's always about the money, and in this case particularly so. Fortunately this is not the place where these things will ultimately be decided.
      - AmericanChopper 7y ago
        Not agreeing with the parent commenter, but the differences are much less trivial than you’re making them out to be. I used to live with a Scottish guy, and he had to make a considerable effort to be understood at all in America. If we were out and he wanted to say something to me privately, he’d just say it in his normal Scottish English, and nobody else would have a clue what he said. “Singlish” is also very different. I’ve travelled with friends to Singapore who absolutely could not communicate with Singlish speakers.
        gwd 7y ago
        Oh, no, don't get me wrong. I moved to the UK over a decade ago, and when I first moved here people couldn't understand me. And even after having been here for a year I still occasionally ran into people that I just couldn't understand at all. Even once you get over the accent, there's just an endless list of things that have different names. But you have but to drop yourself in Iceland or Denmark or Germany or France to realize how close all of our languages really are.

tpmx 7y ago

I thought quite a bit about that line. I ended up editing it to "~English" in the end, perhaps ten minutes before you commented. Don't you think that's fair? Irish English, to me, seems like a distinct/unique language. Very similar to English, sure. I mean.. I don't think americans are speaking English, typically, if that's any help. They're speaking American, which is a fork of English from some point in time.

gwd 7y ago
The word you're looking for is "dialect".
- tpmx 7y ago
  Nah. These people were just looking to downvote someone who were against their tax evasion cash cow. That's where their outrage comes from. Any other outrage is a misdirection.
  - gwd 7y ago
    "They're speaking a sort of English" certainly sounds demeaning to me. The people in Ireland (and the US, and India, and Singapore) are speaking English -- different dialects of English. And FWIW, many of the divergences between American and British English, such as dropping the 'r' at the end of syllables, are actually changes on the British side after the colonies were formed.
    - tpmx 7y ago
      Thank you for being a tool fixating on that one point to distract from the main issue: Hint: it's always about the money, and in this case particularly so. Fortunately this is not the place where these things will ultimately be decided.
    - AmericanChopper 7y ago
      Not agreeing with the parent commenter, but the differences are much less trivial than you’re making them out to be. I used to live with a Scottish guy, and he had to make a considerable effort to be understood at all in America. If we were out and he wanted to say something to me privately, he’d just say it in his normal Scottish English, and nobody else would have a clue what he said. “Singlish” is also very different. I’ve travelled with friends to Singapore who absolutely could not communicate with Singlish speakers.
      - gwd 7y ago
        Oh, no, don't get me wrong. I moved to the UK over a decade ago, and when I first moved here people couldn't understand me. And even after having been here for a year I still occasionally ran into people that I just couldn't understand at all. Even once you get over the accent, there's just an endless list of things that have different names. But you have but to drop yourself in Iceland or Denmark or Germany or France to realize how close all of our languages really are.