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This is a shitty comment. It wasn't DRM on fruit. It was an expiration date so that juice bars couldn't sell expired product to end customers. And it's really s

This is a shitty comment. It wasn't DRM on fruit. It was an expiration date so that juice bars couldn't sell expired product to end customers. And it's really smart of you to try to judge someone so quickly. I would looove to see your LinkedIn profile and see what great flawless decisions you've made or will make in your lifetime.

tempsy 7y ago
If that’s true, expiration dates are hardly exact. A bag could go bad well before or it could be completely fine well after the date. Unless there was some sensor to detect whether something had gone bad I don’t see how preventing use of something you’ve already paid for is a good idea or even legal
- p1necone 7y ago
  Not to mention that I've never been to a juice bar where I couldn't see the fruit they were putting into the juicer beforehand - it's pretty obvious when it's spoiled both visually and from the taste. Even if this rationalization was true Juicero was only solving a problem they created by enforcing the use of these prepackaged bags in the first place.
  - jennyyang 7y ago
    It's clear from your comment that you've never even seen the product that you're making a comment on. Talk about an uninformed "expert" espousing their overly-confident opinion on something they know nothing about. And they didn't even use fruit, btw.
    - p1necone 7y ago
      I have seen the product and I know how it works. I'm not sure what you mean, elaborate? > "they didn't even use fruit" Huh? We are both talking about Juicero, yes?
    - tempsy 7y ago
      the bags were filled with fruit and vegetable pulp...
      - jennyyang 7y ago
        No, it was green juices. There was basically no fruit except as a preservative as a matter of principle. That was the whole point, the original founder already exited his first business selling green juice bars on the East Coast.
p1necone 7y ago
Companies in the "slap DRM on commodity goods and market the shit out of it" space always have a bullshit post hoc rationalization of why they're doing it, taking their marketing material at face value is probably not a good representation of the truth though.
onion2k 7y ago
It wasn't DRM on fruit. The QR code was validated against a web service and included a lot more than just the date. It used a unique code for each pack and you couldn't squeeze packs that Juicero didn't like. If all that was needed was expiration date validation that could have happened entirely offline with a much simpler QR code. It was DRM.

tempsy 7y ago

If that’s true, expiration dates are hardly exact. A bag could go bad well before or it could be completely fine well after the date. Unless there was some sensor to detect whether something had gone bad I don’t see how preventing use of something you’ve already paid for is a good idea or even legal

p1necone 7y ago
Not to mention that I've never been to a juice bar where I couldn't see the fruit they were putting into the juicer beforehand - it's pretty obvious when it's spoiled both visually and from the taste. Even if this rationalization was true Juicero was only solving a problem they created by enforcing the use of these prepackaged bags in the first place.
- jennyyang 7y ago
  It's clear from your comment that you've never even seen the product that you're making a comment on. Talk about an uninformed "expert" espousing their overly-confident opinion on something they know nothing about. And they didn't even use fruit, btw.
  - p1necone 7y ago
    I have seen the product and I know how it works. I'm not sure what you mean, elaborate? > "they didn't even use fruit" Huh? We are both talking about Juicero, yes?
  - tempsy 7y ago
    the bags were filled with fruit and vegetable pulp...
    - jennyyang 7y ago
      No, it was green juices. There was basically no fruit except as a preservative as a matter of principle. That was the whole point, the original founder already exited his first business selling green juice bars on the East Coast.

p1necone 7y ago

Companies in the "slap DRM on commodity goods and market the shit out of it" space always have a bullshit post hoc rationalization of why they're doing it, taking their marketing material at face value is probably not a good representation of the truth though.

onion2k 7y ago

It wasn't DRM on fruit. The QR code was validated against a web service and included a lot more than just the date. It used a unique code for each pack and you couldn't squeeze packs that Juicero didn't like. If all that was needed was expiration date validation that could have happened entirely offline with a much simpler QR code. It was DRM.