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The 'problem' doesn't even exist; non-autonomous cars work fine in America. Autonomy is a luxury product.

lazyasciiart 7y ago
Aside from those massive numbers of dead pedestrians. (Edit: not that I think autonomous cars is the answer - but it's clear that regular cars are a problem)
- Alupis 7y ago
  I hear you about pedestrian deaths, but the numbers aren't actually that bad (accepting some level of accidental deaths will occur no matter what we do). Cyclists coming in at 857 in 2019 and people on foot coming in at 6,283[1]. That's not too trivialize those deaths... but from what we've seen so far, I'm not convinced self-driving cars are going to do any better. [1] https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2019-10-22/pedestrian-fatalities-on-us-roads-hit-almost-30-year-high https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2019-10-22/pedestria...
bananabreakfast 7y ago
lol, there is a serious car accident in America every 3 seconds. People die every day in car accidents. Is that what you consider "working fine"?
- liability 7y ago
  > 'Is that what you consider "working fine"?' First off, yes. It's a big country so figures like that don't mean a whole lot. I wager I'm more likely to be killed by cheeseburgers than by a car. 50,000 cheeseburgers are eaten every three seconds in America. But another thing: if Tesla were really trying to save lives, they'd have this software turned on for all their cars. That's not what they're doing. Rather they're selling activation of this software for thousands of dollars. They're selling a luxury product.
  - mlrtime 7y ago
    Looks like about 4755 every 3 seconds https://southfloridareporter.com/the-average-american-consumes-about-30-pounds-of-hamburgers-a-year/ https://southfloridareporter.com/the-average-american-consum...
v7p1Qbt1im 7y ago
Owning your own car seems lime the much bigger waste in the long run. Imagine only needing a fraction of vehicles in total. Owning your own car will become a luxury for many people. Kinda like owning a horse. I‘d still rent one every once in a while for road trips and camping though.

Aside from those massive numbers of dead pedestrians. (Edit: not that I think autonomous cars is the answer - but it's clear that regular cars are a problem)

Alupis 7y ago
I hear you about pedestrian deaths, but the numbers aren't actually that bad (accepting some level of accidental deaths will occur no matter what we do). Cyclists coming in at 857 in 2019 and people on foot coming in at 6,283[1]. That's not too trivialize those deaths... but from what we've seen so far, I'm not convinced self-driving cars are going to do any better. [1] https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2019-10-22/pedestrian-fatalities-on-us-roads-hit-almost-30-year-high https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2019-10-22/pedestria...

bananabreakfast 7y ago

lol, there is a serious car accident in America every 3 seconds. People die every day in car accidents. Is that what you consider "working fine"?

liability 7y ago
> 'Is that what you consider "working fine"?' First off, yes. It's a big country so figures like that don't mean a whole lot. I wager I'm more likely to be killed by cheeseburgers than by a car. 50,000 cheeseburgers are eaten every three seconds in America. But another thing: if Tesla were really trying to save lives, they'd have this software turned on for all their cars. That's not what they're doing. Rather they're selling activation of this software for thousands of dollars. They're selling a luxury product.
- mlrtime 7y ago
  Looks like about 4755 every 3 seconds https://southfloridareporter.com/the-average-american-consumes-about-30-pounds-of-hamburgers-a-year/ https://southfloridareporter.com/the-average-american-consum...

v7p1Qbt1im 7y ago

Owning your own car seems lime the much bigger waste in the long run. Imagine only needing a fraction of vehicles in total. Owning your own car will become a luxury for many people. Kinda like owning a horse. I‘d still rent one every once in a while for road trips and camping though.