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>It has improved a lot in the 9 months I have had it. A system like this should not have noticable changes in behavior over such a short period of time. In ot

by tyrust 7y ago

>It has improved a lot in the 9 months I have had it. A system like this should not have noticable changes in behavior over such a short period of time. In other words, I don't think they should launch it (let alone call it "autopilot") until it's done and stable.

zaroth 7y ago
A system like this which isn't constantly improving is not a system that will ever ship, or ever reach truly reliable widespread use.
- tyrust 7y ago
  I agree that it should be improving. I don't think that said improvements should be so dramatic that they are easily perceived by humans, for that implies that the shortcomings are perceivable.
jaxn 7y ago
I think you are under-appreciating the amount of perception that goes into driving. We are accustomed to making constant micro adjustments constantly while driving. Under autopilot, there are times when the "do I need to make an adjustment" instinct kicks in and you decide that you don't, but it was borderline. Things like being centered in the lane while passing a semi.
- tyrust 7y ago
  Perhaps you're right, I've not used any driver assist before so I'm not speaking from experience. Second-guessing the system while driving just does not sound like something I'd want to deal with (as someone pointed out above [0]). [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22305695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22305695
  - jaxn 7y ago
    It's not second guessing. It's more real-time than that. You are actively navigating and piloting the car, you just aren't performing the mechanics of executing most maneuvers. Sometimes you provide some extra direction. Sometimes you intervene. It is a skill like driving. But it is not driving. It was way less frustrating and draining than driving and so is a very valuable feature. But we are all in agreement that it is not autonomous driving.

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>It has improved a lot in the 9 months I have had it. A system like this should not have noticable changes in behavior over such a short period of time. In ot

by tyrust 7y ago

zaroth 7y ago
A system like this which isn't constantly improving is not a system that will ever ship, or ever reach truly reliable widespread use.
- tyrust 7y ago
  I agree that it should be improving. I don't think that said improvements should be so dramatic that they are easily perceived by humans, for that implies that the shortcomings are perceivable.
jaxn 7y ago
I think you are under-appreciating the amount of perception that goes into driving. We are accustomed to making constant micro adjustments constantly while driving. Under autopilot, there are times when the "do I need to make an adjustment" instinct kicks in and you decide that you don't, but it was borderline. Things like being centered in the lane while passing a semi.
- tyrust 7y ago
  Perhaps you're right, I've not used any driver assist before so I'm not speaking from experience. Second-guessing the system while driving just does not sound like something I'd want to deal with (as someone pointed out above [0]). [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22305695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22305695
  - jaxn 7y ago
    It's not second guessing. It's more real-time than that. You are actively navigating and piloting the car, you just aren't performing the mechanics of executing most maneuvers. Sometimes you provide some extra direction. Sometimes you intervene. It is a skill like driving. But it is not driving. It was way less frustrating and draining than driving and so is a very valuable feature. But we are all in agreement that it is not autonomous driving.