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If possible could you please provide some sources? Or it’s just heard in person? I’ve been living outside of China for years and read many pro independent sourc

If possible could you please provide some sources? Or it’s just heard in person? I’ve been living outside of China for years and read many pro independent sources especially during the protests but haven’t seen any on uniting with mainlanders. And during the protests I’ve seen reports of protesters trashing businesses that are related to mainland and infrastructure connecting to mainland. I don’t think they think every mainland business is CCP sponsored don’t they?

godelski 7y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/crn4qr/im_starting_to_see_a_lot_of_antimainlander/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/crn4qr/im_startin... I'll admit, on /r/HongKong the "unify with mainlanders" posts don't rise up. It is not trendy. Probably because a lot of people interact with mainlanders that are against their movement. Which my understanding is that this is a selection bias (mainlanders that support them aren't seen). But this is going to happen in any movement that has a lot of fear in it (there is clear justification for the fear).
- theseadroid 7y ago
  Communicating/Interacting with ppl who have different opinions is hard enough. But what I meant by allying is even harder than that. It's to help them get the freedom they wanted first. It will be a long process but I think that's the only solution. Only when China is more free then HK will surely not lose its freedom. It's some effort to protest and wave US/UK flags during a protest. It's some effort to get US/UK to have economic sanction against CN. It's some effort to say we have done our best to inform mainlanders of what's going on. Not all of those effort will help and for the ones that help they are probably not enough. Only mainland citizens can make China more free. We can install a "democracy" in China tomorrow but if the citizens don't have the knowledge to use it then HK might end up in a worse situation, facing the full strength of the tyranny of the majority.
simonh 7y ago
There were protests at the border checkpoints trying to reach out to mainlanders and inform them of what the protests were about, and counteract mainland government propaganda.
- theseadroid 7y ago
  Informing is good, but that's far away from uniting/allying them.

godelski 7y ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/crn4qr/im_starting_to_see_a_lot_of_antimainlander/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/crn4qr/im_startin... I'll admit, on /r/HongKong the "unify with mainlanders" posts don't rise up. It is not trendy. Probably because a lot of people interact with mainlanders that are against their movement. Which my understanding is that this is a selection bias (mainlanders that support them aren't seen). But this is going to happen in any movement that has a lot of fear in it (there is clear justification for the fear).

theseadroid 7y ago
Communicating/Interacting with ppl who have different opinions is hard enough. But what I meant by allying is even harder than that. It's to help them get the freedom they wanted first. It will be a long process but I think that's the only solution. Only when China is more free then HK will surely not lose its freedom. It's some effort to protest and wave US/UK flags during a protest. It's some effort to get US/UK to have economic sanction against CN. It's some effort to say we have done our best to inform mainlanders of what's going on. Not all of those effort will help and for the ones that help they are probably not enough. Only mainland citizens can make China more free. We can install a "democracy" in China tomorrow but if the citizens don't have the knowledge to use it then HK might end up in a worse situation, facing the full strength of the tyranny of the majority.

simonh 7y ago

There were protests at the border checkpoints trying to reach out to mainlanders and inform them of what the protests were about, and counteract mainland government propaganda.

theseadroid 7y ago
Informing is good, but that's far away from uniting/allying them.