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BART and Muni need to start accepting Apple Pay ASAP. You can already do it in the UK and many other countries. Adoption of technologies like NFC payments in p

BART and Muni need to start accepting Apple Pay ASAP. You can already do it in the UK and many other countries. Adoption of technologies like NFC payments in public transport is a good metric to see how competent a local government is.

kelnos 7y ago
Looks like there are plans for this[0] (both support for a dedicated app and digital wallets); Wikipedia suggest 2021, but I expect it won't be out by next year. I actually assumed Clipper was RFID, but turns out it's NFC after all (the Wikipedia article also notes that it's a common misconception that it uses RFID). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_card#Clipper_2.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_card#Clipper_2.0
wikiman 7y ago
New York is very quickly rolling out OMNY, which does support apple pay. It makes me happy, and I can't wait until I can buy my monthly that way
- brlewis 7y ago
  Also Portland, Oregon - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207958 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207958 Chicago and Miami are likely to follow suit since they already support Fitbit Pay (disclaimer: my employer, but I don't speak for them) - https://www.fitbit.com/us/technology/fitbit-pay/banks https://www.fitbit.com/us/technology/fitbit-pay/banks
- jrockway 7y ago
  OMNY is neat. You do not need to turn your phone's screen on to use it, and it works for a while after your phone's battery dies. It is still slower than what I'm used to in Japan, where people have been paying for transit with their phone since 2001 or 2002. (Tokyo also went from 50-ish pilot stations to 500 production stations in just a few months. In New York, I think 2023 is the estimated completion date?)
cbhl 7y ago
One tricky part of this is you'd need to reeducate users that contactless credit cards can also get charged -- so if you put a Clipper and a credit card in a wallet, you need to be careful to not accidentally pay twice. Vancouver just enabled this on their transit system, and they had posters all over warning people to not swipe their whole wallet over the readers like they were used to doing.
snowwolf 7y ago
And Apply Pay in London is even better as you don't even need to authenticate the payment. https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-pay/transport/ https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-pay/transport/

kelnos 7y ago

Looks like there are plans for this[0] (both support for a dedicated app and digital wallets); Wikipedia suggest 2021, but I expect it won't be out by next year. I actually assumed Clipper was RFID, but turns out it's NFC after all (the Wikipedia article also notes that it's a common misconception that it uses RFID). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_card#Clipper_2.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_card#Clipper_2.0

wikiman 7y ago

New York is very quickly rolling out OMNY, which does support apple pay. It makes me happy, and I can't wait until I can buy my monthly that way

brlewis 7y ago
Also Portland, Oregon - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207958 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207958 Chicago and Miami are likely to follow suit since they already support Fitbit Pay (disclaimer: my employer, but I don't speak for them) - https://www.fitbit.com/us/technology/fitbit-pay/banks https://www.fitbit.com/us/technology/fitbit-pay/banks
jrockway 7y ago
OMNY is neat. You do not need to turn your phone's screen on to use it, and it works for a while after your phone's battery dies. It is still slower than what I'm used to in Japan, where people have been paying for transit with their phone since 2001 or 2002. (Tokyo also went from 50-ish pilot stations to 500 production stations in just a few months. In New York, I think 2023 is the estimated completion date?)

cbhl 7y ago

One tricky part of this is you'd need to reeducate users that contactless credit cards can also get charged -- so if you put a Clipper and a credit card in a wallet, you need to be careful to not accidentally pay twice. Vancouver just enabled this on their transit system, and they had posters all over warning people to not swipe their whole wallet over the readers like they were used to doing.

snowwolf 7y ago

And Apply Pay in London is even better as you don't even need to authenticate the payment. https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-pay/transport/ https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-pay/transport/