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I find amusing how microsoft moved from the closed source referent in the industry into such an open source player. Right now even allows to hook some of their

I find amusing how microsoft moved from the closed source referent in the industry into such an open source player. Right now even allows to hook some of their tools and platforms to its competing platforms and tools.

alexlesuper 7y ago
I think they are really repositioning the company as powering general computing through their cloud platform as opposed to powering general computing through their OS.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  I think they will slowly turn into IBM. Maybe a better version of IBM though.
  - thrower123 7y ago
    I hope that they have no interest in becoming a global services company...
    - Ididntdothis 7y ago
      I think they are becoming more and more enterprise oriented so global services company is the way to go.
      - Mountain_Skies 7y ago
        Wonder if this will eventually lead to the company splitting into separate consumer and enterprise companies as the overlap between the two halves grows smaller.
- deleted 7y ago
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m0xte 7y ago
Their intent is still entirely market share. We need to be vigilant on how they get there. History has taught us a lot of lessons we seem to have forgotten because shiny and new layer of marketing. There is still a massive cultural and technical impedance mismatch.
- fultonfaknem42 7y ago
  Given the new mission statement of Microsoft, I think if the community is more vocal about the things they want to accomplish it will become imperative that people at the company will be assigned to making those desiderata a reality. So if you want more visual tooling, find a way to become more vocal about it. If you want more support for this or that tech fad, make it known.
  - m0xte 7y ago
    The community have been very vocal on a number of issues and thoroughly ignored and steamrolled over. Or the direction changes once the desired outcome is established.
- adamnemecek 7y ago
  > Their intent is still entirely market share. So like essentially all other corporations?
  - m0xte 7y ago
    Precisely.
- kqr 7y ago
  I agree. A lot of what they are doing now looks like EEE when you peel back a couple of layers. I say this as someone who happily uses a lot of the stuff they produce in the process. I really, really, intensely hope I'm wrong and my fears aren't realised.
  - romwell 7y ago
jpalomaki 7y ago
There’s so many flavors of open source. It’s not just about the licenses, but also the way development is done. Do you truly collaborate in open or do you first develop and then push to public repo. Or is the development a joint effort, involving serious contributors from multiple companies or mainly driven by single entity.
- nudpiedo 7y ago
  I think the article answers your concerns. They develop the whole process in github and many features are driven and implemented out of microsoft's reach.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
Isn't this because they've jumped on the ad model perfected by google, facebook, etc? Open source it for press/good will, give it away for free and collect data. "The world’s most valuable resource is no longer oil, but data" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14269073 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14269073
mycall 7y ago
Their Azure platform is very closed.

alexlesuper 7y ago

I think they are really repositioning the company as powering general computing through their cloud platform as opposed to powering general computing through their OS.

Ididntdothis 7y ago
I think they will slowly turn into IBM. Maybe a better version of IBM though.
- thrower123 7y ago
  I hope that they have no interest in becoming a global services company...
  - Ididntdothis 7y ago
    I think they are becoming more and more enterprise oriented so global services company is the way to go.
    - Mountain_Skies 7y ago
      Wonder if this will eventually lead to the company splitting into separate consumer and enterprise companies as the overlap between the two halves grows smaller.
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m0xte 7y ago

Their intent is still entirely market share. We need to be vigilant on how they get there. History has taught us a lot of lessons we seem to have forgotten because shiny and new layer of marketing. There is still a massive cultural and technical impedance mismatch.

fultonfaknem42 7y ago
Given the new mission statement of Microsoft, I think if the community is more vocal about the things they want to accomplish it will become imperative that people at the company will be assigned to making those desiderata a reality. So if you want more visual tooling, find a way to become more vocal about it. If you want more support for this or that tech fad, make it known.
- m0xte 7y ago
  The community have been very vocal on a number of issues and thoroughly ignored and steamrolled over. Or the direction changes once the desired outcome is established.
adamnemecek 7y ago
> Their intent is still entirely market share. So like essentially all other corporations?
- m0xte 7y ago
  Precisely.
kqr 7y ago
I agree. A lot of what they are doing now looks like EEE when you peel back a couple of layers. I say this as someone who happily uses a lot of the stuff they produce in the process. I really, really, intensely hope I'm wrong and my fears aren't realised.
- romwell 7y ago

jpalomaki 7y ago

There’s so many flavors of open source. It’s not just about the licenses, but also the way development is done. Do you truly collaborate in open or do you first develop and then push to public repo. Or is the development a joint effort, involving serious contributors from multiple companies or mainly driven by single entity.

nudpiedo 7y ago
I think the article answers your concerns. They develop the whole process in github and many features are driven and implemented out of microsoft's reach.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

Isn't this because they've jumped on the ad model perfected by google, facebook, etc? Open source it for press/good will, give it away for free and collect data. "The world’s most valuable resource is no longer oil, but data" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14269073 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14269073

mycall 7y ago

Their Azure platform is very closed.