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> These kids need mentors more than they need cash. They need adults they can emulate who can help them break free from the viscious cycle. A father, perhaps?

metalliqaz 7y ago
those kids should have had the good sense to be born of a father that sticks around /s
- daenz 7y ago
  Future mothers and fathers should exercise common sense to have a child only with a good partner. That's who that message is for, not the child.
  - awb 7y ago
    If love was rational but it's filled with emotion. There are also plenty of partners above the poverty line that leave their families. I'm not sure we'll ever get to a point where people don't make mistakes with important decisions.
  - moralestapia 7y ago
    This point comes out from time to time, I do not agree with it at all. If history has showed us something, is that great people come from all sorts of backgrounds and situations, and that includes all sorts of families of course!
    - homonculus1 7y ago
      You can't generalize heuristics by looking only at outliers.
  - metalliqaz 7y ago
    lol, good luck with that. Even if a person made that decision, "nature uh uh finds a way".
- t-writescode 7y ago
  Do you think sending large percentages of minority men to prison for long periods of time and then having a society that refuses to permit those who have been to prison to fully re-enter society might have an impact on the population of fathers that stick around?
permatech 7y ago
If the father is as misguided as the Mom it might not be a big help, a teacher or coach could be a great mentor.
awb 7y ago
Mentors can come in many forms. A father is one option but not the only one.
dragonwriter 7y ago
If a parent could model behavior which reliably leads out of poverty, their children likely wouldn't be poor in the first place. So, yes, having a not-poor father (or mother) as a role model would be great, but that's often not a practical solution.

metalliqaz 7y ago

those kids should have had the good sense to be born of a father that sticks around /s

daenz 7y ago
Future mothers and fathers should exercise common sense to have a child only with a good partner. That's who that message is for, not the child.
- awb 7y ago
  If love was rational but it's filled with emotion. There are also plenty of partners above the poverty line that leave their families. I'm not sure we'll ever get to a point where people don't make mistakes with important decisions.
- moralestapia 7y ago
  This point comes out from time to time, I do not agree with it at all. If history has showed us something, is that great people come from all sorts of backgrounds and situations, and that includes all sorts of families of course!
  - homonculus1 7y ago
    You can't generalize heuristics by looking only at outliers.
- metalliqaz 7y ago
  lol, good luck with that. Even if a person made that decision, "nature uh uh finds a way".
t-writescode 7y ago
Do you think sending large percentages of minority men to prison for long periods of time and then having a society that refuses to permit those who have been to prison to fully re-enter society might have an impact on the population of fathers that stick around?

permatech 7y ago

If the father is as misguided as the Mom it might not be a big help, a teacher or coach could be a great mentor.

awb 7y ago

Mentors can come in many forms. A father is one option but not the only one.

dragonwriter 7y ago

If a parent could model behavior which reliably leads out of poverty, their children likely wouldn't be poor in the first place. So, yes, having a not-poor father (or mother) as a role model would be great, but that's often not a practical solution.