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Google seems like a poor example for a company using git. Yes many of their open source projects are under git, but the huge monorepo that holds all the proprie

Google seems like a poor example for a company using git. Yes many of their open source projects are under git, but the huge monorepo that holds all the proprietary code works with Piper [0] [0] https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2016/7/204032-why-google-stores-billions-of-lines-of-code-in-a-single-repository/fulltext https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2016/7/204032-why-google-stor...

dijit 7y ago
It should be noted for those who have not worked at google (since piper is proprietary) that it works quite similarly to perforce.
- malkia 7y ago
  (Early in my gamedev career, I've started with CVS/VSS quickly to switch to p4, then went for 2 years to google using CiTC+g4, then back to gamedev with p4). Even the tool is called "g4" from "p4", has similar style of commands. The best part is that I can work from any directory ("client" p4 terms - https://www.perforce.com/manuals/v17.1/cmdref/Content/CmdRef/p4_client.html https://www.perforce.com/manuals/v17.1/cmdref/Content/CmdRef...) and in "g4" they all have virtual (unrealized) view + merges from my changes. What's even more appealing, is that I can do that from home, from a browser - no VPN, just UbiKey + https://cloud.google.com/beyondcorp/ https://cloud.google.com/beyondcorp/ - then I can even start a build (not on my laptop, it's just a dumb terminal at this point). I can later even (try) to debug with interface like https://source.chromium.org/ https://source.chromium.org/ but my jobs on borg - not real debug, but I can add print statements, and it'll sync with the CL (changelist number) of my pushed binary. So - this is all cool. But then I never really knew how many people, and how man-hours were behind this coolness.. One of the things I miss about Google, is exactly that dedication to the engineer and make their work not impeded.
- downerending 7y ago
  I thought it actually was Perforce. (or perhaps once was?)

dijit 7y ago

It should be noted for those who have not worked at google (since piper is proprietary) that it works quite similarly to perforce.

malkia 7y ago
(Early in my gamedev career, I've started with CVS/VSS quickly to switch to p4, then went for 2 years to google using CiTC+g4, then back to gamedev with p4). Even the tool is called "g4" from "p4", has similar style of commands. The best part is that I can work from any directory ("client" p4 terms - https://www.perforce.com/manuals/v17.1/cmdref/Content/CmdRef/p4_client.html https://www.perforce.com/manuals/v17.1/cmdref/Content/CmdRef...) and in "g4" they all have virtual (unrealized) view + merges from my changes. What's even more appealing, is that I can do that from home, from a browser - no VPN, just UbiKey + https://cloud.google.com/beyondcorp/ https://cloud.google.com/beyondcorp/ - then I can even start a build (not on my laptop, it's just a dumb terminal at this point). I can later even (try) to debug with interface like https://source.chromium.org/ https://source.chromium.org/ but my jobs on borg - not real debug, but I can add print statements, and it'll sync with the CL (changelist number) of my pushed binary. So - this is all cool. But then I never really knew how many people, and how man-hours were behind this coolness.. One of the things I miss about Google, is exactly that dedication to the engineer and make their work not impeded.
downerending 7y ago
I thought it actually was Perforce. (or perhaps once was?)