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The crux of the debate is on whether a fetus is a child. Your ‘fact’ calls it that, but it’s one that is rooted in your beliefs rather than some larger truth.

wyclif 7y ago
It's not rooted in belief, it's rooted in science <jessepinkman.gif>
kuzimoto 7y ago
From a completely objective and scientific viewpoint, I think it's incredibly difficult to posit that life begins at any other point other than conception. After that it's just a matter of how "done" they are. The Human gestation period has been known to be as little as 22 weeks [1] or as long as 53 weeks 4 days [2], while the standard time is 37-40 weeks. Given more technological advancements, perhaps the time could be even shorter. I would say that given only this information, a fetus is a full human being at a minimum by 22 weeks. Now, by 10 weeks "all major structures are already formed in the fetus" [3]. So, if a fetus is not a "child" until 22 weeks (as it has viability out of the womb), but by 10 weeks has all the major components of a human, can you tell me at what point in-between does it suddenly become a child, and have a guaranteed right to life? I don't think you can. If you use conception, you can point to the precise moment in time where every single human being that has ever lived or will live becomes a human being. I'm not sure how you can get any more scientific than that, but apparently it's easy to ignore for the sake of justifying abortion. [1] http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17237979/ns/health-childrens_health/t/earliest-surviving-preemie-remain-hospital/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17237979/ns/health-childrens_healt... [2] https://www.medhealthdaily.com/longest-human-pregnancy/ https://www.medhealthdaily.com/longest-human-pregnancy/ [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development#Development_of_the_fetus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development#Developme...

wyclif 7y ago

It's not rooted in belief, it's rooted in science <jessepinkman.gif>

kuzimoto 7y ago

From a completely objective and scientific viewpoint, I think it's incredibly difficult to posit that life begins at any other point other than conception. After that it's just a matter of how "done" they are. The Human gestation period has been known to be as little as 22 weeks [1] or as long as 53 weeks 4 days [2], while the standard time is 37-40 weeks. Given more technological advancements, perhaps the time could be even shorter. I would say that given only this information, a fetus is a full human being at a minimum by 22 weeks. Now, by 10 weeks "all major structures are already formed in the fetus" [3]. So, if a fetus is not a "child" until 22 weeks (as it has viability out of the womb), but by 10 weeks has all the major components of a human, can you tell me at what point in-between does it suddenly become a child, and have a guaranteed right to life? I don't think you can. If you use conception, you can point to the precise moment in time where every single human being that has ever lived or will live becomes a human being. I'm not sure how you can get any more scientific than that, but apparently it's easy to ignore for the sake of justifying abortion. [1] http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17237979/ns/health-childrens_health/t/earliest-surviving-preemie-remain-hospital/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17237979/ns/health-childrens_healt... [2] https://www.medhealthdaily.com/longest-human-pregnancy/ https://www.medhealthdaily.com/longest-human-pregnancy/ [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development#Development_of_the_fetus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_development#Developme...