> Ok, I agree, maybe for scripting and small code, but anything more complex is just for the Hype of saying I am a Emacs user and you are just a plain dumb Java

> Ok, I agree, maybe for scripting and small code, but anything more complex is just for the Hype of saying I am a Emacs user and you are just a plain dumb Java developer that uses eclipse. Sorry, no. I don't have any prejudice on whatever programming language you use, but you're making yourself look like a plain dumb person, period by saying that you can't be productive with Vim or Emacs with large pieces of code. Here's just a few notable cases...Guido and Python with Vim and Emacs, Torvalds and Linux/Git with MicroEmacs, Stroustrup and C++ with Sam, DHH and Ruby on Rails with TextMate, Matsumoto and Ruby with Emacs, Zawinski and Mozilla with Emacs, Steele and Scheme with Emacs, and on and on. Ridiculous.