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GNOME isn't fine. See, on switching keyboard layout it switches focus from current window while it writes some file to disk. Yes, it's not terrible on SSD, and

by owl57 7y ago

GNOME isn't fine. See, on switching keyboard layout it switches focus from current window while it writes some file to disk. Yes, it's not terrible on SSD, and I bet whoever invented this monstrosity has an SSD. But needing an SSD not to lose some of the letters you type just screams of insanity. OTOH, yes, the rest of Ubuntu is fine, and to anyone fed up with Windows I gladly recommend anything else based on Ubuntu LTS. [LKX]Ubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Mint — they are all really fine.

dublinben 7y ago
How often does a user switch their keyboard layout?
- owl57 7y ago
  When writing in Russian, every time when they switch between typing prose and typing equations or code. So, maybe about a dozen times per sentence. At first my jaw dropped on your comment, but then I thought, maybe we non-latin-writing people are just abusing a feature meant for something different? Do you use several layouts, but switch between them infrequently?
  - fox8091 7y ago
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if people assume that non-latin languages have all the characters you need to type in that language on a single layout. For English at least, you really only use a single layout.
- PeterisP 7y ago
  In various non-european scenarios, possibly multiple times per sentence. For example, including the word "Microsoft" or "Linux" in the middle of non-latin script requires two keyboard layout switches, to latin and back.
- unionpivo 7y ago
  I code on US keyboard, but i write mails and documentation for work on Slovenian keyboard. It's not bad if you focus on one or the other. But when you combine the two, (talking about techical stuf, tickets, code reviews, ...) I often have to switch. I'd say i switch on average few dozen times per hour.
ubercow13 7y ago
Huh? So? Surprisingly, Ubuntu MATE has bugs too, you can look here too see some of them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate
- owl57 7y ago
  1) This bug is a major one for a big part of the world. 2) It belongs to the part of GNOME that exists solely because GNOME decided to reinvent keyboard input. 3) Google shows lots of people aware of the problem (bugreports, stackexchange, whatever) — of course it does, see (1) — but not only no solution, but also I couldn't find any workaround short of using another DE, although — see (2) — disabling the feature altogether would be a decent workaround. Of course all programs have bugs. Do other free programs tend to have bugs of this lasting quality?
yorwba 7y ago
> on switching keyboard layout it switches focus from current window while it writes some file to disk. I don't use GNOME, but I've noticed switching keyboard layout in Fcitx being slow. This is especially annoying since I have four different layouts and switching back-and-forth requires cycling through all the others. I wonder whether this is actually a problem at a deeper layer. (Possibly that layer was originally created for GNOME.) Do you happen to have a link to a bug tracker for this issue?

by owl57 7y ago

dublinben 7y ago

How often does a user switch their keyboard layout?

owl57 7y ago
When writing in Russian, every time when they switch between typing prose and typing equations or code. So, maybe about a dozen times per sentence. At first my jaw dropped on your comment, but then I thought, maybe we non-latin-writing people are just abusing a feature meant for something different? Do you use several layouts, but switch between them infrequently?
- fox8091 7y ago
  Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if people assume that non-latin languages have all the characters you need to type in that language on a single layout. For English at least, you really only use a single layout.
PeterisP 7y ago
In various non-european scenarios, possibly multiple times per sentence. For example, including the word "Microsoft" or "Linux" in the middle of non-latin script requires two keyboard layout switches, to latin and back.
unionpivo 7y ago
I code on US keyboard, but i write mails and documentation for work on Slovenian keyboard. It's not bad if you focus on one or the other. But when you combine the two, (talking about techical stuf, tickets, code reviews, ...) I often have to switch. I'd say i switch on average few dozen times per hour.

ubercow13 7y ago

Huh? So? Surprisingly, Ubuntu MATE has bugs too, you can look here too see some of them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate

owl57 7y ago
1) This bug is a major one for a big part of the world. 2) It belongs to the part of GNOME that exists solely because GNOME decided to reinvent keyboard input. 3) Google shows lots of people aware of the problem (bugreports, stackexchange, whatever) — of course it does, see (1) — but not only no solution, but also I couldn't find any workaround short of using another DE, although — see (2) — disabling the feature altogether would be a decent workaround. Of course all programs have bugs. Do other free programs tend to have bugs of this lasting quality?

yorwba 7y ago

> on switching keyboard layout it switches focus from current window while it writes some file to disk. I don't use GNOME, but I've noticed switching keyboard layout in Fcitx being slow. This is especially annoying since I have four different layouts and switching back-and-forth requires cycling through all the others. I wonder whether this is actually a problem at a deeper layer. (Possibly that layer was originally created for GNOME.) Do you happen to have a link to a bug tracker for this issue?