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How is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store? All the tech giants participate in this behavio
by Delmania 7y ago
How is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store? All the tech giants participate in this behavior.
- cptskippy 7y ago> How is this shady Largely because it's Microsoft. Everyone else does cross promotion of their products but some people hold a special place in their heart for hating on Microsoft. It usually manifests itself with frothing at the mouth, exposition about how they were sued as a monopoly, and they're the devil. It's as if Microsoft was breaking into homes in the 90s and swapping your Macs out for PCs. Someone will respond to this post with a laundry list of complaints about them that they've had saved off in a .txt to counter posts like this.
- celticmusic 7y agoI've never had google ads randomly pop up on my desktop environment. When that starts happening, maybe you have a point.
- scumbert 7y agoGoogle lives in a browser. Your average consumer's computing rarely leaves the browser today. Apples to oranges.
- jevgeni 7y agoAnd probably due to that GOOG’s tracking is way more intrusive. But yeah, the bandwagon isn’t going to jump on itself.
- celticmusic 7y agoclaiming it doesn't make it so.
- cptskippy 7y ago> my desktop environment. Is your desktop environment Chrome OS? Do you get Microsoft ads whenever you visit google.com from the Chrome Web Browser?
- Cthulhu_ 7y agoI live in a browser half the time; the browser IS the desktop environment. Conversely, I don't use the start menu. At best I hit start and type the application I use. But on my Windows machine I mostly live inside my browser and Steam / game libraries, which are pinned to my start bar.
- icebraining 7y agoDoes Chrome show ads by itself?
- runjake 7y agoYou should use Chrome and ChromeOS more. It's already happening.
- icebraining 7y agoWhich ads do Chrome/ChromeOS show, outside of those shown to everyone using other OS/Browser to access the same sites?
- cptskippy 7y ago> outside of those shown to everyone using other OS/Browser to access the same sites? That isn't a fair comparison because each company primarily advertises from their monopoly position. Google does not have a monopoly position on platforms, only services. Microsoft is the opposite. If you flip it around, Microsoft shows you one advert if you haven't turned them off entirely. Where as Google shows you an advert every time you visit every service they have and you can't turn it off.
- m-watson 7y agoI think part of the issue is that it is on the OS level rather than browser level on a specific website but I agree, they are all shady.
- disiplus 7y agothat, and also we paid for the windows license.
- bcrosby95 7y agoBut it's never enough. Gotta get that growth.
- Cthulhu_ 7y agoOnce, maybe; Windows' business model has changed, they are only charging for Windows 10 OEM now and have stopped trying to publish a new paid version every few years. Their business model is recurring payments now like Office365 and OneDrive, but also ads inside of applications and I presume selling your usage data to third parties.
- JonathonW 7y agoWere OS upgrades ever a significant profit center for Microsoft? Prior to the free Windows 10 upgrade, most users I know of would only get on a new version of Windows when it came with a new computer.
- jammygit 7y agoThose upgrades werent free, they were hidden in the cost of the machine
- JonathonW 7y agoI never said they were-- those are new licenses, and accounted for by Microsoft as OEM sales. I'm asking about Windows upgrade SKUs-- the kind that you'd buy in a box someplace like Best Buy or Circuit City or Office Max back in the day, completely separate from a computer. Were those ever a meaningful fraction of sales? Or, phrased differently, is Microsoft actually leaving any money on the table by making Windows 10 upgrades (both the Windows 7/8 to 10 and 10 feature releases) free for consumers rather than paid?
- _pmf_ 7y agoMicrosoft are somehow now expected to be the good guy, because everything else will harm your GitHub social credits that are required for hiring being hired in SV.
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- dmitriid 7y agoJust because someone else does it doesn't make this right. This is shady. And Google's ads for Chrome on google.com is shady. And paid search results in the App Store especially when exploited by Apple is shady.
- Vrondi 7y agoGoogle's ads on Google.com do not reach directly onto my OS (which I've already paid for, and should not have ads) GUI.
- reaperducer 7y agoHow is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store They can both be bad. It isn't either/or. All the tech giants participate in this behavior. That doesn't make it OK.
- jammygit 7y agoJust because the other skeezy companies do it doesn’t legitimize it. That’s like saying colonialism was great because everyone was doing it
- minifigone 7y agoNo, but it rationalizes and generalizes the conversation so rather than discussing/attacking a single company, discussion can be about the greater problem and how to fix it.