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I don't see that as very easy, given that there are degrees of parking pages and it can be hard to figure out where to draw the line.

mopsi 7y ago
Not to mention that there are many other uses for a domain, such as email.
kerkeslager 7y ago
Yes, but can we agree that one company owning thousands of domains with a "buy this domain for $XXXX" homepages crosses any line that we would draw? The domain squatting problem is so bad, that even just solving the most egregious cases would be a big improvement.
- ryanlol 7y ago
  >The domain squatting problem is so bad How is the domain squatting problem so bad? You’ll need to expand on this further.
  - franga2000 7y ago
    Not OP, but are you saying you haven't noticed the squatting problem? According to [0], there are only around 1000 single-word .COMs left. [0] https://www.domcomp.com/blog/the-last-coms.html https://www.domcomp.com/blog/the-last-coms.html
    - ryanlol 7y ago
      Why is it such a big problem that you have to pay more than $7 for a single word .com? Is it just that it feels unfair to you for someone to be profiting like this? I’ve been more than happy to buy domains from these squatters, they’re usually willing to accept prices far lower than the value I can extract from said domains.
      - StavrosK 7y ago
        "More than $7" is disingenuous, since $100,000 is also "more than $7".
        ryanlol 7y ago
        Why is it a problem that some domains cost $100,000 or more?
        StavrosK 7y ago
        Do you also find ticket scalping to be fine? If not, what's the difference with squatting?
        ryanlol 7y ago
        Of course ticket scalping is fine, many venues go out of their way to enable it. I’ve often benefited from the scalpers by being able to buy last minute tickets. Same goes for domain squatters. You think squatting is bad? Ok. What if my low-effort personal website was “doctor.com” and someone emailed me an offer of $2M for it, should I be allowed to accept that? I don’t think there’s a meaningful distinction to be made there.
      - franga2000 7y ago
        I guess you're technically correct in that the several thousands of $ these domains usually go for is "more than 7$" and in fact, I don't have a problem paying a high price for something valuable to me. I have a problem paying an unpredictable unregulated price to a completely third party just because they "got there first". Buying from a squatter benefits the squatter (a 3rd party) and to some extent the providers (registries, registrars, ICANN), but harms the end consumer. To me, that is the exact opposite of how things should be done. Consumer first, companies second, random third parties last.
        ryanlol 7y ago
        Okay so the complaint is essentially “this doesn’t feel fair!”. I guess this really does come down to envy, just as another commenter pointed out. >but harms the end consumer It doesn’t though, without the second hand market someone would be using that domain for something silly and you wouldn’t get it anyway. > Consumer first, companies second, random third parties last But companies are the primary consumers in the domain name market. Internet end users benefit from squatting because the companies doing something with value are the only ones who end up actually using the good domains.

mopsi 7y ago

Not to mention that there are many other uses for a domain, such as email.

kerkeslager 7y ago

Yes, but can we agree that one company owning thousands of domains with a "buy this domain for $XXXX" homepages crosses any line that we would draw? The domain squatting problem is so bad, that even just solving the most egregious cases would be a big improvement.

ryanlol 7y ago
>The domain squatting problem is so bad How is the domain squatting problem so bad? You’ll need to expand on this further.
- franga2000 7y ago
  Not OP, but are you saying you haven't noticed the squatting problem? According to [0], there are only around 1000 single-word .COMs left. [0] https://www.domcomp.com/blog/the-last-coms.html https://www.domcomp.com/blog/the-last-coms.html
  - ryanlol 7y ago
    Why is it such a big problem that you have to pay more than $7 for a single word .com? Is it just that it feels unfair to you for someone to be profiting like this? I’ve been more than happy to buy domains from these squatters, they’re usually willing to accept prices far lower than the value I can extract from said domains.
    - StavrosK 7y ago
      "More than $7" is disingenuous, since $100,000 is also "more than $7".
      - ryanlol 7y ago
        Why is it a problem that some domains cost $100,000 or more?
        StavrosK 7y ago
        Do you also find ticket scalping to be fine? If not, what's the difference with squatting?
        ryanlol 7y ago
        Of course ticket scalping is fine, many venues go out of their way to enable it. I’ve often benefited from the scalpers by being able to buy last minute tickets. Same goes for domain squatters. You think squatting is bad? Ok. What if my low-effort personal website was “doctor.com” and someone emailed me an offer of $2M for it, should I be allowed to accept that? I don’t think there’s a meaningful distinction to be made there.
    - franga2000 7y ago
      I guess you're technically correct in that the several thousands of $ these domains usually go for is "more than 7$" and in fact, I don't have a problem paying a high price for something valuable to me. I have a problem paying an unpredictable unregulated price to a completely third party just because they "got there first". Buying from a squatter benefits the squatter (a 3rd party) and to some extent the providers (registries, registrars, ICANN), but harms the end consumer. To me, that is the exact opposite of how things should be done. Consumer first, companies second, random third parties last.
      - ryanlol 7y ago
        Okay so the complaint is essentially “this doesn’t feel fair!”. I guess this really does come down to envy, just as another commenter pointed out. >but harms the end consumer It doesn’t though, without the second hand market someone would be using that domain for something silly and you wouldn’t get it anyway. > Consumer first, companies second, random third parties last But companies are the primary consumers in the domain name market. Internet end users benefit from squatting because the companies doing something with value are the only ones who end up actually using the good domains.