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NASA is going to end up being the label on the shipping crate. They don't have a funding model sufficiently detached from political actors trying to sell the si

NASA is going to end up being the label on the shipping crate. They don't have a funding model sufficiently detached from political actors trying to sell the sizzle and uninterested in somebody else's steak.

jvanderbot 7y ago
NASA builds, deploys, and operates the largest and most successful space exploration network in history and will hold that distinction for the forseeable future. The lunar campaign seems designed to force commercial partners to step up and become the UPS and Uber service for future NASA instruments and missions. You seem to be focused soley on SLS as a failure case and forget that when it comes to huge campaigns with fast turn arounds and zero room for error they dont have the funding model period.
- mattrp 7y ago
  I’m reading the reddit thread below and I’m inclined to say maybe as a permitting organization, there’s not just a place but a critical need for an org like NASA: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/f2a1yx/eric_berger_nasa_confirms_crew_dragon_almost/ https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/f2a1yx/eric_berger_... But at the same time, how can it accomplish its mission without going on boondoggles like SLS? I just saw an article yesterday about a project they funded for Lockheed Martin for them to explore an SST that doesn’t create loud shockwaves... I guess you could say this falls under the Aeronautics mandate but really? Is this an area of research that needs government funding? Or can they say anything that furthers the understanding of safe flight and NASA’s regulatory mission of private space flight, then its justifiable?
- JulianMorrison 7y ago
  They have consistently been successful at what you could call JFK-less varieties of exploration, where nobody gets to be the JFK and make a big speech about Mars human landings and decree a project that will get their name in the history books. Every JFK-project they have been saddled with, after the original, fizzled. This is because each incoming administration (without regard to party) wants to be the JFK. They don't want to deliver what the previous man hyped. Tear it up, back to the drawing board. Where it's an unassuming team of scientists plugging away making lander robots or what have you, they can do that.
numpad0 7y ago
They seem competent to me at preventing disastrous mishaps and making discoveries past Moon/Mars colonizations

jvanderbot 7y ago

NASA builds, deploys, and operates the largest and most successful space exploration network in history and will hold that distinction for the forseeable future. The lunar campaign seems designed to force commercial partners to step up and become the UPS and Uber service for future NASA instruments and missions. You seem to be focused soley on SLS as a failure case and forget that when it comes to huge campaigns with fast turn arounds and zero room for error they dont have the funding model period.

mattrp 7y ago
I’m reading the reddit thread below and I’m inclined to say maybe as a permitting organization, there’s not just a place but a critical need for an org like NASA: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/f2a1yx/eric_berger_nasa_confirms_crew_dragon_almost/ https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/f2a1yx/eric_berger_... But at the same time, how can it accomplish its mission without going on boondoggles like SLS? I just saw an article yesterday about a project they funded for Lockheed Martin for them to explore an SST that doesn’t create loud shockwaves... I guess you could say this falls under the Aeronautics mandate but really? Is this an area of research that needs government funding? Or can they say anything that furthers the understanding of safe flight and NASA’s regulatory mission of private space flight, then its justifiable?
JulianMorrison 7y ago
They have consistently been successful at what you could call JFK-less varieties of exploration, where nobody gets to be the JFK and make a big speech about Mars human landings and decree a project that will get their name in the history books. Every JFK-project they have been saddled with, after the original, fizzled. This is because each incoming administration (without regard to party) wants to be the JFK. They don't want to deliver what the previous man hyped. Tear it up, back to the drawing board. Where it's an unassuming team of scientists plugging away making lander robots or what have you, they can do that.

numpad0 7y ago

They seem competent to me at preventing disastrous mishaps and making discoveries past Moon/Mars colonizations