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Two thoughts the first is that quarantines work and the second is that restricting travel across borders do not. You are under quarantine firstly. As a consequ
by thinkingemote 7y ago
Two thoughts the first is that quarantines work and the second is that restricting travel across borders do not.
You are under quarantine firstly. As a consequence of this you are also being restricted with travel. A boat makes it very easy to do both.
Generally closing borders are bad for the sentiments you give: it's unjust, I'm not infected. People will cross a closed border illegally and officials will not be able to know. If you had the opportunity you would leave, right?
Open borders allow officials to track those coming in and if necessary quarantine them. Leaky borders have people actively avoiding quarantine and surveillance which could lead to much worse effects
- lisper 7y ago> You are under quarantine. No, we're not. But even if we were, it would be a moot point. Taiwan, Philippines and Guam are closed to all cruise ships. But the airports are still open.
- MR4D 7y agoWait...you're NOT under quarantine? That's messed up. What were the start / destination ports?
- lisper 7y agoWe started in Guam. We have not made landfall since.
- lisper 7y agoJust in case anyone is still following this thread, this is the sort of insanity I'm referring to: https://www.businessinsider.com/westerdam-cruise-ship-denied-entry-five-ports-thailand-no-coronavirus-2020-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/westerdam-cruise-ship-denied... The Westerdam has been in effective quarantine for two weeks, no one on board has the virus, and they are STILL being refused permission to dock just because they came from Hong Kong. We are still en route to Singapore, scheduled to arrive this afternoon. No hint of anything more going awry for us so far, but I'm not going to count any chickens until I've cleared customs back home in the U.S.
- tim333 7y agoGlad they let you off in the end.
- lisper 7y agoI was actually not on the Westerdam, I was on the Crystal Symphony. We ended up disembarking in Singapore on Feb 12.
- ilestkempo 7y agoThe Westerdam appeared to have someone that was infected when they were allowed to disembark (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/world/asia/coronavirus-cruise-americans.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/world/asia/coronavirus-cr...). I'm hoping this doesn't happen on the Crystal Symphony.