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A big part of why LA has so many pedestrian and bicyclist fatalities is because the mass transit system is awful and the sprawl. A ton of people in LA still jus

A big part of why LA has so many pedestrian and bicyclist fatalities is because the mass transit system is awful and the sprawl. A ton of people in LA still just drive drunk because ridesharing and cabs are too expensive. Lots of people can’t afford to pay $30 to get home and would rather risk it. Note that the economically less fortunate districts of LA dominate the drunk driving fatalities by capita: https://starpointinjurylaw.com/research/deadliest-cities-drunk-driving-los-angeles/ https://starpointinjurylaw.com/research/deadliest-cities-dru...

stevenicr 7y ago
I've wondered for years why we don't have more tow trucks on the road for this, and bars need to have X amount on retainer per Y seating capacity. It's not just the cost of the cab / uber, it's not having your car when you wake up, no good way to get it, and not being sure if the lot you left it in is going to have it impounded / booted or something. Still waiting for the uber/tow combo that guarantees your car arrives before you wake up, and in the exact condition it was in when they went to pick it up.
- CalRobert 7y ago
  Quite the opposite, LA requires bars to have X amount of car parking for Y seating, which is insane, but there you go.
- Broken_Hippo 7y ago
  I am not sure we have enough tow trucks for this, and it seems unnecessary if the public transportation is robust enough. Even if you leave your car at the pub, it should be a minimal hassle to use public transportation the next day to get it back - or to simply use it in the first place. I do think we should disallow booting/towing for cars in those situations, so perhaps having a "safe" parking lot to keep one's car would be prudent.
  - stevenicr 7y ago
    The good thing is that the tow trucks wouldn't have to drive them all at 3am.. they could drive some at 3am some at 3:30am... most people don't need them until 7am or later - so you'd have 4 hours or more.. getting people to use public transportation - haha that's a whole 'nother podcast I'd like to do.. it's just not happening. The booting, and LAZ parking's new "barnacle" - it's just absurd, as are the prices they charge. Vars could start fixing the problem with tows - or the double drivers as another pointed out below, is popular in Japan.. or the cops could start pulling licenses for the places that are over serving.. or do the Salt Lake law where bars have to stop serving an hour before close / stay open an hour later than they stop serving.. I mean, something should be done. It's a true safety issue, and people are profiting by looking the other way every day in just about every city as far as I know.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  I've heard of services where you call, and someone cycles (on a folding bicycle) to your location. They then put their bicycle in your car, and drive you home. There are some American equivalents, using folding mini-motorcycles: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/business/smallbusiness/27sbiz.html https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/business/smallbusiness/27...
- kalleboo 7y ago
  In Japan there are taxi services that will drive you home in your own car (and they have a follow car to pick the driver up). They are reasonably priced.
taurath 7y ago
LA is made at every level as a “car scale” metro region. Asking for it to be different is nearly an impossibility, given the amount of resources needed.
- josh2600 7y ago
  https://la.curbed.com/2017/9/20/16340038/los-angeles-streetcar-conspiracy-theory-general-motors https://la.curbed.com/2017/9/20/16340038/los-angeles-streetc... << Worth a read.

stevenicr 7y ago

I've wondered for years why we don't have more tow trucks on the road for this, and bars need to have X amount on retainer per Y seating capacity. It's not just the cost of the cab / uber, it's not having your car when you wake up, no good way to get it, and not being sure if the lot you left it in is going to have it impounded / booted or something. Still waiting for the uber/tow combo that guarantees your car arrives before you wake up, and in the exact condition it was in when they went to pick it up.

CalRobert 7y ago
Quite the opposite, LA requires bars to have X amount of car parking for Y seating, which is insane, but there you go.
Broken_Hippo 7y ago
I am not sure we have enough tow trucks for this, and it seems unnecessary if the public transportation is robust enough. Even if you leave your car at the pub, it should be a minimal hassle to use public transportation the next day to get it back - or to simply use it in the first place. I do think we should disallow booting/towing for cars in those situations, so perhaps having a "safe" parking lot to keep one's car would be prudent.
- stevenicr 7y ago
  The good thing is that the tow trucks wouldn't have to drive them all at 3am.. they could drive some at 3am some at 3:30am... most people don't need them until 7am or later - so you'd have 4 hours or more.. getting people to use public transportation - haha that's a whole 'nother podcast I'd like to do.. it's just not happening. The booting, and LAZ parking's new "barnacle" - it's just absurd, as are the prices they charge. Vars could start fixing the problem with tows - or the double drivers as another pointed out below, is popular in Japan.. or the cops could start pulling licenses for the places that are over serving.. or do the Salt Lake law where bars have to stop serving an hour before close / stay open an hour later than they stop serving.. I mean, something should be done. It's a true safety issue, and people are profiting by looking the other way every day in just about every city as far as I know.
Symbiote 7y ago
I've heard of services where you call, and someone cycles (on a folding bicycle) to your location. They then put their bicycle in your car, and drive you home. There are some American equivalents, using folding mini-motorcycles: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/business/smallbusiness/27sbiz.html https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/business/smallbusiness/27...
kalleboo 7y ago
In Japan there are taxi services that will drive you home in your own car (and they have a follow car to pick the driver up). They are reasonably priced.

taurath 7y ago

LA is made at every level as a “car scale” metro region. Asking for it to be different is nearly an impossibility, given the amount of resources needed.

josh2600 7y ago
https://la.curbed.com/2017/9/20/16340038/los-angeles-streetcar-conspiracy-theory-general-motors https://la.curbed.com/2017/9/20/16340038/los-angeles-streetc... << Worth a read.