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Not sure, if you look at how Elop (mis)managed the company piece-by-piece, first by sidelining MeeGo, then one by one closing Indian factories that made NOKIA i

by bitL 7y ago

Not sure, if you look at how Elop (mis)managed the company piece-by-piece, first by sidelining MeeGo, then one by one closing Indian factories that made NOKIA independent (ask Indians how fun that was), then splitting off Qt to prevent any kind of internal competition to MS' platform, including the sell-off bonus Elop had in the contract, the Hanlon's razor applicability is pretty low. If you want to believe there wasn't some background deal between top management, rendering all NOKIA employees sacrificial lambs for MS, OK.

fsloth 7y ago
Hanlon's razor becomes more credible once you understand how mismanaged Nokia already was at the point Elop took in the reins. He may have been in the boat when it sunk, but it already had lot of holes in it. Both Jorma Ollila (the Chair) and Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo, the CEO preceding Elop, were financial experts, not tech visionaries. The organization that had created the rise of Nokia was split to pieces before Elop took control with no understanding that you can't run an technology corporation like an investment bank. There are two pretty good books exploring this topic: https://www.amazon.com/Ringtone-Exploring-Nokia-Mobile-Phones-ebook/dp/B0799NX6VW https://www.amazon.com/Ringtone-Exploring-Nokia-Mobile-Phone... https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-NOKIA-Paranoid-Optimism-Colossal/dp/1260128725 https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-NOKIA-Paranoid-Optimism-... "rendering all NOKIA employees sacrificial lambs for MS" 'Sacrificial lamb' is quite hyperbolic. The laid of people enjoyed quite good benefits. You don't become an instant destitute in Finland just because you are temporarily out of a job. The way the handset business was going, Microsoft basically paid 8 billion for the privilege of a dead-in-the water platform and the nicety of laying off the staff . If there ever was an evil plot to steal value from Nokia's shareholders then it was thoroughly botched.
- modo_mario 7y ago
  >The way the handset business was going, Microsoft basically paid 8 billion for the privilege of a dead-in-the water platform and the nicety of laying off the staff . It was having issues when Elop came in but still had potential for rebound and good market share. Elop just stomped any potential for that in the ground making it dead in the water.
  - type0 7y ago
    I was horrified when they signed that deal with the devil. Nokia shares suffered 20% drop. By that time everyone already knew what were going to happen eventually. https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/elop_invests_in_nokia_shares/5083023 https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/elop_invests_in_nokia_sha...
- dirtydroog 7y ago
  This is an accurate account of what happened to Nokia / Symbian, from insiders. Symbian hated Nokia and vice versa. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smartphones-beyond-Lessons-remarkable-Symbian-ebook/dp/B00NAZTCTW https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smartphones-beyond-Lessons-remarkab...

by bitL 7y ago

fsloth 7y ago

Hanlon's razor becomes more credible once you understand how mismanaged Nokia already was at the point Elop took in the reins. He may have been in the boat when it sunk, but it already had lot of holes in it. Both Jorma Ollila (the Chair) and Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo, the CEO preceding Elop, were financial experts, not tech visionaries. The organization that had created the rise of Nokia was split to pieces before Elop took control with no understanding that you can't run an technology corporation like an investment bank. There are two pretty good books exploring this topic: https://www.amazon.com/Ringtone-Exploring-Nokia-Mobile-Phones-ebook/dp/B0799NX6VW https://www.amazon.com/Ringtone-Exploring-Nokia-Mobile-Phone... https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-NOKIA-Paranoid-Optimism-Colossal/dp/1260128725 https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-NOKIA-Paranoid-Optimism-... "rendering all NOKIA employees sacrificial lambs for MS" 'Sacrificial lamb' is quite hyperbolic. The laid of people enjoyed quite good benefits. You don't become an instant destitute in Finland just because you are temporarily out of a job. The way the handset business was going, Microsoft basically paid 8 billion for the privilege of a dead-in-the water platform and the nicety of laying off the staff . If there ever was an evil plot to steal value from Nokia's shareholders then it was thoroughly botched.

modo_mario 7y ago
>The way the handset business was going, Microsoft basically paid 8 billion for the privilege of a dead-in-the water platform and the nicety of laying off the staff . It was having issues when Elop came in but still had potential for rebound and good market share. Elop just stomped any potential for that in the ground making it dead in the water.
- type0 7y ago
  I was horrified when they signed that deal with the devil. Nokia shares suffered 20% drop. By that time everyone already knew what were going to happen eventually. https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/elop_invests_in_nokia_shares/5083023 https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/elop_invests_in_nokia_sha...
dirtydroog 7y ago
This is an accurate account of what happened to Nokia / Symbian, from insiders. Symbian hated Nokia and vice versa. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smartphones-beyond-Lessons-remarkable-Symbian-ebook/dp/B00NAZTCTW https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smartphones-beyond-Lessons-remarkab...