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Please note more words don't ad validity to an argument. Violation of due process is simple to show. There is no warning or process for trial or appeal. The tri

Please note more words don't ad validity to an argument. Violation of due process is simple to show. There is no warning or process for trial or appeal. The trial is secret and there is as of yer no appeal. This is a simple end run around the court system. I really don't understand the need to complicate things this is outside the intended capacity of the customs. There are still people that don't have their sites back that were falsely accused and no means of appeal. How can this possibly be justice? Secret trials are not part of due process either they are not notified prior to conviction.

defroost 16y ago
Agreed. I wish I could up you 100 times.
anigbrowl 16y ago
Please note more words don't ad validity to an argument. Violation of due process is simple to show. There is no warning or process for trial or appeal. The trial is secret and there is as of yer no appeal. This is a simple end run around the court system. If they're secret, how is it that I can see customs-related asset forfeiture cases on the court calendar, and that they're open to the public? Here's the annual report/audit for last year on the US treasury asset forfeiture account (where all the money ends up when there's money involved): http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/terrorist-illicit-finance/Asset-Forfeiture/Documents/FY_2010_ACCOUNTABILITY_REPORT__Final.pdf http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/terrorist-illicit-fi... And here's an easily readable article on the legal concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction The customs service has had powers like this since 1799. edit: I forgot to mention that of course the website owners who were affected can sue the government individually or via a class action. I'd be very surprised if they didn't; I'm sure there are attorneys who specialize in such things busy typing articles about it right now, in case any of the persons affected are wondering who would be able to advise them on the subject.

Please note more words don't ad validity to an argument. Violation of due process is simple to show. There is no warning or process for trial or appeal. The trial is secret and there is as of yer no appeal. This is a simple end run around the court system. I really don't understand the need to complicate things this is outside the intended capacity of the customs. There are still people that don't have their sites back that were falsely accused and no means of appeal. How can this possibly be justice? Secret trials are not part of due process either they are not notified prior to conviction.

defroost 16y ago

Agreed. I wish I could up you 100 times.

anigbrowl 16y ago

Please note more words don't ad validity to an argument. Violation of due process is simple to show. There is no warning or process for trial or appeal. The trial is secret and there is as of yer no appeal. This is a simple end run around the court system. If they're secret, how is it that I can see customs-related asset forfeiture cases on the court calendar, and that they're open to the public? Here's the annual report/audit for last year on the US treasury asset forfeiture account (where all the money ends up when there's money involved): http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/terrorist-illicit-finance/Asset-Forfeiture/Documents/FY_2010_ACCOUNTABILITY_REPORT__Final.pdf http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/terrorist-illicit-fi... And here's an easily readable article on the legal concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem_jurisdiction The customs service has had powers like this since 1799. edit: I forgot to mention that of course the website owners who were affected can sue the government individually or via a class action. I'd be very surprised if they didn't; I'm sure there are attorneys who specialize in such things busy typing articles about it right now, in case any of the persons affected are wondering who would be able to advise them on the subject.