There are a couple I've run into. Technically any ESOP company has some degree of employee ownership, but is actually just a company with a different sort of pe

There are a couple I've run into. Technically any ESOP company has some degree of employee ownership, but is actually just a company with a different sort of pension plan. I believe in full employee ownership. You really have to believe in the owner-worker model and commit to it. And you can't have owner-workers who are only there because of the benefits: there's a burden in running a company. Management works for you, not the other way around. So you have to be really responsible. Everyone is counting on you. You don't abdicate any decisions.