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> I have no idea why Purism didn't leave most of the hardware design to someone who already has a generic modern smartphone done and completed, then they could

by vxNsr 7y ago

> I have no idea why Purism didn't leave most of the hardware design to someone who already has a generic modern smartphone done and completed, then they could have added on to it by swapping out some proprietary bits. Either you didn’t actually read the article or you’re being intentionally obtuse. They very clearly state the reason that they couldn’t use the regular supply chain. All the usual suppliers refused to work within the “confines” of OSS. They were lucky to find a CPU that works at all within their definition and needs. If you read the article you’d know that the author spends the entire first page explaining the compromises that were made in favor of OSS. There is no supply chain for this sort of project. Purism is the first company to actually attempt it. Look, I have no horse in this race, I’m a happy Win and iOS user, I have no plans on changing that. But I commend the effort and definitely believe in the mission. OSS hardware is a compromise right now! That’s just a fact. People like you who can only see the flaws and refuse to understand how we got here are unhelpful.

seba_dos1 7y ago
> Purism is the first company to actually attempt it. To be exact, Purism isn't really the first - however, earlier successful attempts were made long enough time ago to be hardly relevant in today's context (like Openmoko) and/or very limited in their scale (like GTA04).
dangus 7y ago
I may seem unhelpful here, but I'm also taking this from the perspective of a potential customer. If you read Purism's marketing on their website, read the blog posts, and the verbiage on the store page, and then you run out and buy this phone, you'll be under the impression that you're getting something much more close to functional than it actually is. Essentially, this product should be labeled as an early development kit. But the marketing on the website is even trying to sell this to parents, who should absolutely not buy this phone for their children (because it's not done and it'll be dead anytime you try to call them because the power management is broken).
- seba_dos1 7y ago
  The revision being sold (Evergreen) hasn't been released at all yet, it's scheduled for Q2. To get the earlier revisions that are being shipped already you had to explicitly opt in and double confirm via e-mail that you're aware of possible issues.
- iamnothere 7y ago
  I'm assuming this will be fixed by the Evergreen batch. The early release batches were labeled as such and buyers had an option as to which batch they wanted.
- ta999999171 7y ago
  You're ignoring the intangible of not being spied on. If this doesn't matter to you, fine, but ignoring it is disingenuous.

by vxNsr 7y ago

seba_dos1 7y ago

> Purism is the first company to actually attempt it. To be exact, Purism isn't really the first - however, earlier successful attempts were made long enough time ago to be hardly relevant in today's context (like Openmoko) and/or very limited in their scale (like GTA04).

dangus 7y ago

I may seem unhelpful here, but I'm also taking this from the perspective of a potential customer. If you read Purism's marketing on their website, read the blog posts, and the verbiage on the store page, and then you run out and buy this phone, you'll be under the impression that you're getting something much more close to functional than it actually is. Essentially, this product should be labeled as an early development kit. But the marketing on the website is even trying to sell this to parents, who should absolutely not buy this phone for their children (because it's not done and it'll be dead anytime you try to call them because the power management is broken).

seba_dos1 7y ago
The revision being sold (Evergreen) hasn't been released at all yet, it's scheduled for Q2. To get the earlier revisions that are being shipped already you had to explicitly opt in and double confirm via e-mail that you're aware of possible issues.
iamnothere 7y ago
I'm assuming this will be fixed by the Evergreen batch. The early release batches were labeled as such and buyers had an option as to which batch they wanted.
ta999999171 7y ago
You're ignoring the intangible of not being spied on. If this doesn't matter to you, fine, but ignoring it is disingenuous.