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Amen. My experience exactly. I’ve tried to express this a few times online and fallen foul of offended introverts - my observation is that some people like to

by mft_ 7y ago

Amen. My experience exactly. I’ve tried to express this a few times online and fallen foul of offended introverts - my observation is that some people like to use the label of being an introvert as a shield or justification of (their dissatisfaction with?) their shy or antisocial behavioural traits.

paganel 7y ago
There’s nothing wrong with avoiding social relationships if that person so desires, if anything accusing said person of “antisocial behavioral traits” does more harm than good.
- williamdclt 7y ago
  > There’s nothing wrong with avoiding social relationships if that person so desires Well yes and no. Socially, that's nobody's business indeed. Professionally, that can be a problem or at the very least a weakness. Social relationship are a skill, being bad at it isn't neutral. Sure you can be wanting to avoid social relationships while being good at it, but I doubt this is any sort of common.
jacques_chester 7y ago
Introversion is often confused with or confounded with other attributes. Sometimes when folks talk about introversion they are describing other things like social anxiety etc.
munificent 7y ago
Social anxiety, introversion, and antisociability are all different things that often get conflated. If we replace people with ice cream, I think it works out something like: * Social anxiety: I'm afraid I will choke on the ice cream. * Introversion: Ice cream is fine but I don't really enjoy the flavor. * Anti-social: Ice cream tastes gross. These all manifest in the same visible way — avoiding ice cream — but the causes are distinct.
- PaulStatezny 7y ago
  Interesting analogy. From my perspective (as an introvert) I would replace the "Introvert" line with: * Introversion: I may or may not enjoy ice cream, but eating very much makes me exhausted. (Or "I feel full after eating just a bit".) From my perspective, your analogy makes the very mistake that the grandparent comment brought up: conflating introversion with not liking social interaction.
  - munificent 7y ago
    Yeah, I like that better too. Especially the second sentence.

by mft_ 7y ago

paganel 7y ago

There’s nothing wrong with avoiding social relationships if that person so desires, if anything accusing said person of “antisocial behavioral traits” does more harm than good.

williamdclt 7y ago
> There’s nothing wrong with avoiding social relationships if that person so desires Well yes and no. Socially, that's nobody's business indeed. Professionally, that can be a problem or at the very least a weakness. Social relationship are a skill, being bad at it isn't neutral. Sure you can be wanting to avoid social relationships while being good at it, but I doubt this is any sort of common.

jacques_chester 7y ago

Introversion is often confused with or confounded with other attributes. Sometimes when folks talk about introversion they are describing other things like social anxiety etc.

munificent 7y ago

Social anxiety, introversion, and antisociability are all different things that often get conflated. If we replace people with ice cream, I think it works out something like: * Social anxiety: I'm afraid I will choke on the ice cream. * Introversion: Ice cream is fine but I don't really enjoy the flavor. * Anti-social: Ice cream tastes gross. These all manifest in the same visible way — avoiding ice cream — but the causes are distinct.

PaulStatezny 7y ago
Interesting analogy. From my perspective (as an introvert) I would replace the "Introvert" line with: * Introversion: I may or may not enjoy ice cream, but eating very much makes me exhausted. (Or "I feel full after eating just a bit".) From my perspective, your analogy makes the very mistake that the grandparent comment brought up: conflating introversion with not liking social interaction.
- munificent 7y ago
  Yeah, I like that better too. Especially the second sentence.