> We’re talking about a social rule here, not a legal one. Legal rules don't exist in a void, they usually originate from social norms. Of course, social norms

> We’re talking about a social rule here, not a legal one. Legal rules don't exist in a void, they usually originate from social norms. Of course, social norms evolve, and so do laws. > Is your family or community entitled to tell you you’re raising your children wrong, Entitled? Of course not. > and must you graciously accept that criticism? Must? No. It is wise of me to consider the criticism of those that earned my respect, as well as it is wise of those whose respect I earned to consider mine. But again, respect is earned. My parents were very nice to me and deserve all of my respect, but unfortunately I have witnessed many situations were parents do not deserve the respect of their children. It's not an automatic status that comes from procreating. > In almost the entire world, including much of Eastern Europe, the answer is “yes.” Also in my own culture (Southern Europe) until not so long ago. I know of cases of children being driven to suicide because of such norms. No thanks, I prefer the new norms here. > That is the better answer. That is your opinion, but if you care to provide an actual argument I am willing to listen. > The places where that answer is not true are not only a minority, but are declining in cultural significance. (Arguably, the dead-end detour into a highly individualistic culture is partly responsible for that decline.) You seem to be obsessed with the collapse of western culture. I'm not sure what this even means. We are all confronting a global existential crisis (climate change), perhaps time to let go of these petty conflicts?