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It's not only games. The Wayland/X/Nvidia fiasco is killin me. To use Wayland and gestures I need to basically ignore the graphics card and run everything via

It's not only games. The Wayland/X/Nvidia fiasco is killin me. To use Wayland and gestures I need to basically ignore the graphics card and run everything via integrated. I love Linux but I also love when things just work and I don't have the time or energy to use my computer as a foss/Linux zealot ideology battleground.

zozbot234 7y ago
Many experienced Linux users just avoid any Nvidia hardware at this point. Of course you might be trying to reuse existing hardware, but anything new you can just buy with AMD or Intel.
- platz 7y ago
  Can you get that on a Lenovo laptop?
  - endemic 7y ago
    Lenovo does make laptops with AMD hardware; some even within the ThinkPad line. e.g. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/T495s/p/22TP2TT495S https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser...
dmos62 7y ago
I'm still trying to reconcile my zealot and pragmatic aspects. One thing that's for sure is that if you're going the Linux route, you have to be smart about the choices you make. It's not permadeath, but the training wheels are off: the choices you make will have more sway than they might on a Windows install. Nvidia/AMD; peripherals; apps without Linux support. You also often have to make compromises, which is an art in itself: how will you deal with something not working when you want it to just work? Personally, I'm working on accepting personal computing as it currently is and trying to let go of wanting to change every second thing. In other words, I'm trying to look at what can be, rather than what could be.
ta999999171 7y ago
"Gestures" in/for what? There's always going to be a new proprietary hotness they keep locked away...who cares?
- ryukafalz 7y ago
  My guess would be for a laptop with a more recent touchpad in e.g. Gnome. It’s not “proprietary hotness,” it’s free software that only works on Wayland because that’s where lots of recent DE development has been. Nvidia users are out of luck; and I do blame Nvidia for this and intend to buy AMD next time.

zozbot234 7y ago

Many experienced Linux users just avoid any Nvidia hardware at this point. Of course you might be trying to reuse existing hardware, but anything new you can just buy with AMD or Intel.

platz 7y ago
Can you get that on a Lenovo laptop?
- endemic 7y ago
  Lenovo does make laptops with AMD hardware; some even within the ThinkPad line. e.g. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/T495s/p/22TP2TT495S https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser...

dmos62 7y ago

I'm still trying to reconcile my zealot and pragmatic aspects. One thing that's for sure is that if you're going the Linux route, you have to be smart about the choices you make. It's not permadeath, but the training wheels are off: the choices you make will have more sway than they might on a Windows install. Nvidia/AMD; peripherals; apps without Linux support. You also often have to make compromises, which is an art in itself: how will you deal with something not working when you want it to just work? Personally, I'm working on accepting personal computing as it currently is and trying to let go of wanting to change every second thing. In other words, I'm trying to look at what can be, rather than what could be.

ta999999171 7y ago

"Gestures" in/for what? There's always going to be a new proprietary hotness they keep locked away...who cares?

ryukafalz 7y ago
My guess would be for a laptop with a more recent touchpad in e.g. Gnome. It’s not “proprietary hotness,” it’s free software that only works on Wayland because that’s where lots of recent DE development has been. Nvidia users are out of luck; and I do blame Nvidia for this and intend to buy AMD next time.